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Which came first the label or the brain scan? Isn’t ADD A Daddy’s Drama? :p
I agree with you Nomad. Just like kids using street drugs don’t fully understand the severity of potential side effects, when someone is prescribed these drugs off label they can suffer and not know why. When I asked for help with sleep, I was prescribed Abilify by a Dr who said don’t worry you’re not crazy as I was in a verbally abusive marriage. I went to another doctor who said he doesn’t prescribe this drug as it has so many side affects. After I disco’d the drug, I found out it causes depression, anxiety etc and it’s prescribed for bipolar and schizophrenia! They don’t even know how this drug works. Prescribing off-label, without conscious informed consent and for an unrelated issue is totally unethical and should be illegal as it destroys lives.
Remember the busybody violating neighbors. You want to see it coming next time.
Frankly, I have had enough of the damn busybodies hanging on every thought I utter. I can’t imagine someone calling the police after you sharing a personal experience. I’ve been violated needlessly and want to remember to avoid these manipulators. This way I’ll also be the friend some didn’t have and keep you out of that pit.
“With great power comes great responsibility”.
“Those who know do not speak” – Tao
“In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends”. MLK
http://www.toxicpsychiatry.com, is one of Dr. Peter Breggin’s sites, has alot of info. He also is an expert witness in court cases.
FeelinDiscouraged, you can speak for/to those around you on an individual basis so be encouraged.
We should be mad in America. Who is diagnosing in the first place? Did they do blood work for allergies, toxins or any other physical issue? Did they find the underlying issue for emotional unhappiness? Was there abuse, job loss, divorce, sleep depravation, drug side effects etc? I don’t believe in mental illness but have seen and heard people who are so psychotic and fixated on everyone but themselves who impose labels and drugs on innocent people.
Prescribing psychotropic type drugs off label violates conscious informed consent and is unethical. What happens to the patient who sees a doctor for an unrelated issue, is prescribed these drugs, has all the side effects they’re given for, including poor quality of life, yet doesn’t know why they are suffering? A doctor prescribed me a drug a mass shooter was on. I suppose she should be glad I didn’t show up at her office? I wouldn’t take a drug again. If they can’t be a humane , truthful caregiver then perhaps they should find another profession.
Thank you for making me laugh out loud because what we went through isn’t funny. Dehumanized is exactly how it feels to have your spouse who is verbally abusing you to get a court order to have you incarcerated in a mental health facility. A squad car came with the order and as I walked away said please get in the squad car or I’ll have to cuff you. I asked him to cuff me and ring the doorbell so my then husband could see what he did. I was taken to court where a judge and attorney interrogated me. My ex fabricated lies because he had been gaslighting me. The psychologist I saw told me not to worry about discrepancies in my records but then submitted them so the discrepancies could be used against me. Then to mental health where they did a strip search because they had to check my clothes? Thankfully didn’t search where the sun doesn’t shine but traumatic enough to have people shaking out your clothes while you stand in your underwear. My antibiotic was taken away as I was told they had to dispense it. Psychiatrist asked why I was there and I said I was having marital problems and sleep issues. At meals you had to fill out on a scale from 1-10 how depressed you are. Well if marriage wasn’t enough.. what would they do next? Always mark low. Now med time and we all line up at window. I started waking up during the night and in the am with migraines but no one would tell me why. A nurse did a physical but wouldn’t answer my questions. The other Dr asked me to stay for a longer evaluation (for what? I was never informed.) because the court document said the judge could send me to the state hospital for six months! That’s when I lost it. Had enough abuse. I chose to risk court, when my hero, a court advocate showed up. He listened to my story and said he wouldn’t let them do that to me. On the way out the female psych Dr said you don’t belong here, your civil rights are being violated but you have a dysfunctional marriage. Still blamed for what was done to me. Although I felt drunk and had migraines they still denied drugging me and gave my full bottle of antibiotics back when I left for court. How can this legally happen? Is it just a blatant lack of respect for life or a deliberate character assassination?
Or should it be why the connected brain makes assumptions when it doesn’t think out loud?
“It only has to do with my inability to be employed because of the repeated and calculated disclosures of my personal medical information by those who had something to gain by those disclosures.” How did you know this info was disclosed to potential employers? What did you sign that includes this in a background check? I was gaslighted and court ordered to a mental health facility but never given a bs diagnosis. Dissonance? You should feel at odds because it’s ironic how psychotic those are who are so fixated by labeling people. Blessings to all who speak here to better someone else’s life.
“a DSM label that was destroying me” I’m so sorry for what you were put through. I don’t believe a human being was meant to be subjected to abuse that cuts you to the core. Please keep talking and writing because you are the hope that others who are gaslighted need.
I was in a verbally abusive marriage. Did that require pyschotropic type drugs and being gaslighted? What about the doctor who prescribed them off label for another issue? I don’t know where the side offects of one began or another ended. Did it matter to them that my children were growing up when their Mother couldn’t give them all the focused attention she would have otherwise? The psychiatrist at the mental health facility that I was court ordered to go to, told me there was nothing wrong with me, my civil rights were being violated, and I was in a disfunctional marriage. Just what I needed? Therapists need an understanding of trauma based control and the hold it has on the one victimized. Drugs are not the answer – being out of that atmosphere was. My children grew up while this Mother’s attention was elsewhere. Now I have to wonder about weight gain and the possibility of overcoming diabetes? I didn’t choose to take these drugs. Time to treat people humanely because next time it could be you –
Yes, Nomadic it is criminal for a child to be prescribed these drugs. I call ADD A Daddy’s Drama. There is always a reason however drugs are not the answer or the cover up. It’s also criminal for a woman to be drugged off label to stay in an abusive situation. This isn’t a game. It’s destructive to human life.
Don’t tell people to take these drugs! I never would have taken a psychotropic drug or one that works like it. Most of us had serious problems that weren’t resolved and instead of help got drugs, side effects and addictions and because it was off label, I only understand now after I suffered. No more drugs for me.
Are you ok Joe? You sounded desperate. God uses people and telling us your story shows no one is alone.
Well, Joe it’s called Gaslighting. How do they know how you behave or what you say in your own home, car, phone etc? I know people who are such busy bodies and gossips that it isn’t possible for them to make judgments in that dilussional state.They constantly violate relationship when they sneak up behind you and listen to private conversation. Of course some people argue loudly in apartment setting or on cell phone and I think they are asking permission to listen!
“Pts have the absolute right to know what medications they are being given and when” This is true, however if you consider taking a prescription, you should check every reason it is prescribed. Some doctors are prescribing off label so they can prescribe something for a rash and it affects you similar to a pschotropic drug. How are you to know when the side affects come? Sick of the psycho’s labeling and destroying lives. If the truth were known they are the ones causing the problems in the first place. So tell an abusive woman take drugs and stay with the man? Tell a bullied child to take this drug and stay in a school that doesn’t address this issue? How about the child pumped up school meals, sugar and sodas who can’t sit still? In many of these situations, I see control and money –
I was given a hypnotic benzo for sleep at a time I felt desperate for lack of it and had no support. Ask me prior, I would say I’d never take a med for sleep or a psychotropic drug. If I had been informed of the side effects, memory issues, and addictive nature I never would have consented! The people you expected to help you, hurt you with their unethical practices. How can the system get away with court ordering you to mental health facility only to have a psychiatrist tell you what you already know; “There’s nothing wrong with you your civil rights are being violated?” No agency or attorney would touch it and statutes of limitations run out. We only have a story to remember so that we can warn others in similar situations.
Recently read oppression causes anger; at least when you start to see it in my opinion. Environment would include interpersonal relationships as well; henceforth the ups and downs if oppressive. Music has also been studied to create new neural pathways.
Student Blogger @http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/student-blogger/influence-music-neurons.” Well, I say if music be the food for new neural pathways and increased intellectual abilities, by all means, play on.”
http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n15/mente/musica.html ; Music and the Brain
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=17315101&query_hl=22&itool=pubmed_docsum ; Music and Neurology
Bradford, how did I miss this comment? You are right on my friend. People have problems and abuse and drugs are not their solution. In my sweet home state you can have someone court ordered to a mental health facility for just about anything. Taken by squad car, interrogated by judge and attorney, strip searched at said place, money stolen, antibiotic taken away supposedly to be dispensed but replaced with psychotropic, later denied. Psychiatrists who say “there’s nothing wrong with you. Your civil rights are being violated.” Who are the delusional?
“The “medications” often cause the very things that they’re supposed to take care of.”(Stephen) So true, and if they are prescribed off label, without consent, then you will not know why you are experiencing these life altering negative effects –
I’m sorry for your needless suffering, Rachel. I wonder if you were gaslighted too? I had a doctor tell me I wasn’t crazy, however prescribed Abilify for sleep issues! So, I had to follow up with a psychiatrist who said he would never prescribe Abilify because it has so many side effects. He also said I can give you something for sleep but if you wake up during the night you won’t remember what happened. Watch out for hypnotic Benzo’s! Dr. Breggin, think he’s had it with his profession and the experimentation that’s not only going on with these drugs but with what’s creating a “need for psychotropic drugs”?
Rachel, there are support groups online that can help you taper if you can’t find a humane physician to get you off of them. Best wishes
“- fear of involuntary treatment hangs over the head of everyone labelled a mental patient.” Isn’t it slander to be labeled by a physician you didn’t seek mental health from?
Keep up the good work, Dr. Breggin.
Old head with young heart? Can you explain the Murphy Bill?
I call ADD, A Daddy”s Drama. I don’t know who came up with the criteria for ADHD but why don’t they diagnose by finding the cause of the issues instead of label and drug? I wouldn’t give my child these drugs without trying every alternative first! As a children’s advocate can you give suggestions such as allergy testing, diet, restricting stimulating activities etc?
I should think finding the cause of someone’s difficulties would be the first step before prescribing potential life altering and addictive medications. Talk therapy, stress management and medical tests should be prerequisites and then options should be discussed. These drugs and others that can destroy quality of life are also being prescribed off-label without informed consent!
Will, I’m requesting that lack of informed consent and holistic treatment be addressed.