Mr Josh Hines,
THANK YOU! Iāve felt validated, triggered, outraged, moved, and touched by several articles in MIA. Your piece is the best one on all of those fronts! Well done! You nailed it.
If the true story of psychiatry survives and I hope it does, humans will learn so much about how not to behave like blinded fools.
Psychoactive drugs might very well lead to our speciesā extinction, though.
I canāt say I donāt think we ALL deserve it. But I do still root for us that we will figure out we all are born knowing who we are and then are blinded by religion/science. Unless we do figure that out, we are not going to make it …
I feel so lucky I personally got to āseeā my true self again. I could easily have lived & died before I did.
Sounds like youāre lucky too, Josh Hines.
Since humans are ignorant of the fact that everything single being on this planet and universe is interconnected and interdependent you and I and all humans are on their own as far as getting help from any other human. This is to all of our detriment and to the detriment of all beings everywhere.
So you can give up hope of anyone helping you OR you can start helping others understand that helping others IS getting help.
Iāve discovered itās very very rare that MDs of any specialty get it right. Itās much more common that they blunder for years until the patient finally succumbs to all the iatrogenic damage.
According to ALL the specialists my parents paid out of pocket it was a āmysteryā that I developed severe OCD out of the blue, at age 40. I discovered at 55 while reading a āfor professionals onlyā app that they had been telling each other that whole time that the medication I was on, for psychosis, caused OCD in their patients. No one HAS EVER told me that! They even put me in a documentary. A psychiatrist Resident did her project on my severe case. And yet no one ever suggested I stop taking the medication or even lower the dose!!
Once again, I pay every month for a subscription and cannot read the article after I sign in. Iāve seen it on my bank statement. I even emailed madinamerica and didnāt get an answer.
Yes. I believe so too. Iām very glad to be out of yet another environment that is toxic for me.
I was in the MHS for 4 decades. I donāt want to be anywhere that claims to be one thing but is really something else, something harmful; AGAIN. Nope!
My email is [email protected].
They have suspended me. I donāt really know why. I just got a form letter that said it was for many reasons. I am glad.according to their guidelines the are not anti-drug and not anti-doctor. I am anti drug and I do not like MDs. So I am not in alignment with ICI. I donāt want to be in a place like that anyway.
Thank you Bernadette. I am wanting to leave ICI myself. Iāve been warned three times now about being kicked out, for speaking with hatred and intolerance. I made some general negative statements about doctors because they almost killed myself, my mom and another ICI memberās son.
I never said I hated anyone. But I guess I am intolerant when it comes to people endangering the lives of my loved ones and people in general.
The only reason I havenāt left yet, is because Iāve come to really care about the members there. Itās the administration I do not get along with.
I agree, who in their right mind would not be anti psych drugs. The only reason I can think of is that theyāre being super careful so they arenāt sued or shit down by the powers that be. But it would be nice if they would just admit that.
Go to the place you get the apps for your smartphone. Search for google chat. Then download that. Then in the box at the top it will sayāSearch in chat.
Press in that, and type Lori daniels. My email address will pop up. Press that. Then type your message to me.
OMG!! Seriously???? Thatās outrageous that he would ask you to leave. He shouldnāt have done that!!!
I donāt understand. Really??? I didnāt even know Cooper had a problem with me. Please lmk what happened! I need to address this!
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I absolutely agree with your opinion of psychotherapists. They are indeed a huge part of the psychiatric āsystemā and psychotherapists are definitely NOT the exception to the rule that psychiatry does way more harm than good.
1. Out of the few times Iāve attempted going āoff my medsā in the past 38 years (not including now 2022) it has been one of my many psychotherapists who convinced me to start taking them again (Twice! The other times, they were physically forced in-hospital when I refused)
2. A part of the reason I stayed in an abusive relationship for 7 years was because my psychotherapist, at the beginning of my abusive relationship, had me convinced that it was a ānormalā way to start to any relationship by āfightingā like thatāthatās āhow to established boundaries ā. After a year of describing these āfightsā to her each week, I asked one day, āare you sure this is normal??? To which this psychotherapist replied, ā Heavens, NO! Why would you think that? She is abusive! My advice to you is for you to break up with her and find a girlfriend who has even less self-esteem as you, Lori. If thatās even possible!ā
Then a month or so later, she said, āI am really tired of listening to these complaints about your girlfriend, Lori. Until you break up with her, you are no longer allowed to talk about her in my office.ā
But by then I felt so trapped in my abusive relationship, especially with no one to help me figure things out, that I did nothing, kept everything to myself, and was abused everyday for another 6 years.
By the way, I felt so ashamed of myself, I never mentioned my girlfriend again to her. I did stay with that therapist until she moved away a couple years later. For the life of me, I cannot remember or even imagine what else my therapist and I found to talk about after that, as I wasnāt working and had no other friends. Maybe, I made up things to talk about? Happy experiences I had with my loving girlfriend??? I honestly donāt remember.
I was abused by psychotherapists and psychiatrists and by my lover. But at least, after we broke up, I didnāt get an invoice in my inbox from my EX!
Itās been months now since I stopped taking psych medication but every day, every hour, I experience severe painful symptoms, either from physical damage from long term psych drug use or from withdrawal symptoms. (I have doctors appointments every week to address these symptoms and conditions. Mostly, those doctors cannot help, anyway, really. The stress dealing with the regular health care system is a whole other horrible story.āAnd they also send a bill.)
When will I ever have to stop paying for their abuse of me????
So HECK YA! I totally agree, Birdsong!! Totally!!!
BoansāWow! Your story is something else! Incredible. You should edit it all together and submit it here at Mad In America. It has been very helpful for me, in my new path away from the mental health system. Good luck to you. https://www.madinamerica.com/submitting-a-blog/
Wow! Your story is something else! Incredible. You should edit it all together and submit it here at Mad In America. It has been very helpful for me, in my new path away from the mental health system. Good luck to you.
GinaāI feel your pain. I understand. You know I do. I am outraged at what theyāve done to you. You are absolutely right. Your destruction IS NOT OK!!! It is a horrible awful tragedy. You do not deserve this!!
You are a beautiful human being. REPEAT:you are a human being. You are not less than the psychiatrists. They may think so, but they are NOT better than you.
Try to know that. Try to believe in yourself!! Iām thinking of you, Gina. I need you. Please come find me on inner compass initiative. I would love to chat!!! Lori Daniels.
Yes! Thank you very much! I really appreciate your dedication to real science, documentation and accountability. I like that you want to include that in your book.
Please help me. I am confused by your explanation about the numbers you add to the text.
āI have added a page number to the textbook references and often also to references to other books to show where the information can be found. Thus,17:919 means page 919 in that textbook (or, in a few cases, 1-2 pages further ahead, when the information appeared over several pages).ā
You say what 919 means. It means the page number. But what does the 17 mean, in 17:919?
What do numbers mean that do not have a colon in the middle? Such as the numbers at the end of your sentence here?
āthey do not have disease-specific properties.3,4,7,24ā
I think it takeās incredible courage and I applaud you for the work you are doing. Thank you so very much!
The psychiatric survivors need people with credentials like yours to aide in the fight for humanity!!
Thank you Bill. Kindness is the new cool. I never wanted to be one of the cool kids in school. They always seemed so mean. But, now, I want to be super cool!!
Nothing wrong with anger!! Itās normal. You were wronged! You were terribly HURT! We all have been hurt!! Let the anger fuel you. Fight. Fight for HOPE!!!
Thatās what I will do.
Thanks about my mom. Iām going to do my best to care for her. Sheās precious.
Thank you Rosalee. Your words are so kind and your compassion touches me. I am very saddened and quite outraged by your personal tragedy at the hands of psychiatrists.
Your hope for me? Thank you! My plan and my path forward IS for more personal health and it is to hold the psychiatric industry accountable. I plan to do this is by telling my story to as many people as possible, until people stop turning to this institution of predators to solve normal human problems. My plan is to connect with other human beings and put forth love and compassion into the world, creating a world that I want to live in. A world with dignity, respect and equality for all humans. Because we are all the same. We are all different. We are all beautiful!
I havenāt really cried yet myself. Sometimes I wish I could just cry it all out. Iām having a lot of trouble letting go of my anger about it all. Itās not just over myself. What really pisses me offāthey drugged my beloved mother 10 years ago, with two times the highest dose of Lexapro. And I was too fooled to stop them!! Sheās now titrating off it because she has osteoporosis. She is so sick with withdrawal, I want to scream.
Itās one thing when they do it to you. Itās quite another when itās your family they do it to!!!
Iām very very glad that you have financial resources. That is awesome!!! I encourage you to use that gift to heal and
Live life to the Fullest. You deserve that!!! I hope you also spread the word of the injustices in the mental health system. I know that is the path I am taking. I know I am capable of that. We are all beautiful and have so much to offer.
Your points are extremely valid, insightful and intelligent!! Thank you for sharing them!!!
And this that you saidāāLori, you have more brain than any shrink could ever wish for. You have GUTS. They know this.
And I am really sorry that those weak asses did their racket on you.
Thank you for your GUTS, your insight, your voice. It is a great voice.ā
WellāThat was a really nice thing to say to me. It brought me joy. Thank you very much.
The mental health system isnāt the only crisis I see in this world. It is just part of how the āglobal predatorsā in this country and in this world are oppressing regular people. These global predators are extremely powerful, wealthy and dangerous. Dominance and oppression of individual liberty is their goal. They will use every resource they possess to shape the world in the way they want it shaped.
These predators have created a mess. It is a huge and very daunting mess.
But the predators are made up of individuals and these individuals are made up of the same basic particles as I am. Everything in the entire universe is made up of the same basic particles. They are human. I am human. Equal. We all have the capacity to create. If the predators created the current state; I can create a different one.
They lied to me and told me at 17 and reinforced it with their drugs and separation, for 38+ yearsāLori you are INCAPABLE.
I believed them.
I have woken up from that nightmare.
Unfortunately I am now in another one.
But nowāI see the truth.
The truth isāI AM CAPABLE. I am capable of creating the world I WANT.
I am so dismayed, so heartbroken by humanity and what we have done. But I have HOPE. I DO!
I am going to share our stories. I will not be deterred.
I watched that video. My understanding after watching/listening to that YouTube videoāItās a civilian man who was run into by a police car then being kicked and beaten by the police . A man who the police were told, by hospital staff, had a diagnosis of bipolar and that this man had left the ER waiting room without permission, after waiting in the queue for over 24 hours and not getting admitted.
So, did he deserve to be chased down, run over and beaten for that?
I wonderā¦ if he had not had a diagnosis of a mental illness and had just been a regular man waiting for a bed because he had, letās say, chest pains, got angry and impatient and stormed out, he would have been beaten for that?????
(I wonder where that guy is now? Two years later)
Outrageous!!!
This system takes human beings and makes them āless thanā
We all have a right to be treated like full fledged human beings. Because we all are, even if we have mental/emotional problems.
Those policeman thought they had the right to ācontrolā that man because someone said he was mentally ill. And in that case, control meant using physical force. That physical force harmed him. He ended up in a medically induced coma!
Psych drugs are also used to control the mentally ill peopleās behavior. They also harm us. These psych drugs are harmful. I am living proof. I have a list of physical diagnoses from these drugs!! And there are tons of people out there just like me.
Please! Please start connecting with us. Treat us like humans. Please stop controlling us.
Thank you for that keen observation. āBrokenā implies it worked well and in the benefit of patients. I strongly agree! I think the psychiatric industry has always been much more about the psychiatrists themselves than about healing their patients. More about exploiting the weak and helpless for accolades and profit. Psychiatry is a business. Just like big pharma. For almost 70 years now, theyāve make cozy bedfellows. A match made in heaven since 1954. Before that, psychiatry was successfully convincing greater society that lobotomy was in the best interest of the mentally ill.
I vow that it will NOT take another 70 years for our society to see these psych drugs in the same light that we now see lobotomies. People again WILL say,āWhat barbarism those treatments (psychotropic drugs) were! How could they do that (prescribe drugs) to fellow human beings???ā
Thank you Michael.
I read your article. Sounds awful. Very very traumatizing. The mental hospitals now are not much better. However, in the past 10-15 years, they do not keep you there very long. Thank goodness. But only because itās too expensive. The mental health system, specifically psychiatry was broken then and it is still broken. I think itās time the psychiatric industry got out of the mental health business. All they do is prescribe pills that have no science behind them but do great bodily harm to people.
How about we let the other mental health clinicians take over and use compassion to connect with troubled, struggling souls like us on a human to human level. Why canāt we just try that for awhile and see how it goes?
I am open minded and interested in looking into all of the sorts of things youāre thinking. I am a member on inner compass initiative where anyone can join. I welcome you, Psychiatric mechanic, to find me there and chat with me. https://www.theinnercompass.org/
Thank you. You are so right. Thank you for bringing that up. It needs to be addressed!!! Many times when Iāve tried to stop taking psych drugs in the past, my withdrawal symptoms were seen as the return or as worsening mental illness symptoms. In response, I was given more psych meds.
This happens all the time. Making it almost impossible for people to stop taking their psych drugs long term.
It turns into a vicious cycle.
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing that with me. I really appreciate your comments. Iām so sorry that you and so many others share my story. Itās a national, no worldwide, tragedy. Letās all turn it around, shall we? Iām tired of being a victim. We are all human. Psychiatry has dehumanized us and isolated us. We do not need to be diagnosed as āother thanā, then controlled and isolated from the rest of society by these drugs! We DO have a diagnosis. We DO have a special āconditionā It is called the HUMAN CONDITION! Every human has it. We just have it too.
Please find my on inner compass.com. Iād love to chat with you.
Iām from the USA. Iāve clicked your link tapernurse. Iāve tried to use the email link on your website. My emailās always returned. Iām disappointed.
Hi Lisa!! I feel such a bond with you and Iāve never even written to you yet. However, you read my story, āI Can Barely Breatheā and now Iāve read yours. Your story blew my mind! Iāve been around the horrific psychiatric block, so to say, and your story still made my jaw drop!!! I canāt decide if the doctor who took you off THREE meds AT ONCE cold turkey was just plain stupid or just plain evil. Iād love to chat with you online. Iām planning to come to DC to start shaking trees on Capitol Hill writhing the next 18 months. Have you heard of inner compass initiative? Find me there if you want to meet. We can chat. Iām a member. https://www.theinnercompass.org/
The problem is that Iām having trouble getting any doctor to write on the record that any of my symptoms are adverse reactions to the psych medications.
You mentioned my journey. I am now going to choose my own path. I am no longer going to let the doctors or the mental health system decide the parameters of my life. I am choosing a path towards activism in bringing awareness to the regular hardworking members of society that psych drugs are the vessels being used for financial and corporate control of the economy and public services. Even if Iām accused of having grandiose manic delusions for saying something like that.
Thank you. Itās extremely heartbreaking to me also because I keep reading other stories and the words they use to describe the physical and emotional things theyāre going through because these drugs could be my own words. I read a post and literally do a
Double take to see if my name is on it-ā wait! did I post that last night and forget? Thatās exactly what was happening to me!ā
Mr Josh Hines,
THANK YOU! Iāve felt validated, triggered, outraged, moved, and touched by several articles in MIA. Your piece is the best one on all of those fronts! Well done! You nailed it.
If the true story of psychiatry survives and I hope it does, humans will learn so much about how not to behave like blinded fools.
Psychoactive drugs might very well lead to our speciesā extinction, though.
I canāt say I donāt think we ALL deserve it. But I do still root for us that we will figure out we all are born knowing who we are and then are blinded by religion/science. Unless we do figure that out, we are not going to make it …
I feel so lucky I personally got to āseeā my true self again. I could easily have lived & died before I did.
Sounds like youāre lucky too, Josh Hines.
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Theyāll be lucky to get ketamine instead of ECT!
Thatās what I always got when they messed with my meds! MFIs!
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Since humans are ignorant of the fact that everything single being on this planet and universe is interconnected and interdependent you and I and all humans are on their own as far as getting help from any other human. This is to all of our detriment and to the detriment of all beings everywhere.
So you can give up hope of anyone helping you OR you can start helping others understand that helping others IS getting help.
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If you emailed me it went to junk l. What address will you be emailing from?
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Iāve discovered itās very very rare that MDs of any specialty get it right. Itās much more common that they blunder for years until the patient finally succumbs to all the iatrogenic damage.
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According to ALL the specialists my parents paid out of pocket it was a āmysteryā that I developed severe OCD out of the blue, at age 40. I discovered at 55 while reading a āfor professionals onlyā app that they had been telling each other that whole time that the medication I was on, for psychosis, caused OCD in their patients. No one HAS EVER told me that! They even put me in a documentary. A psychiatrist Resident did her project on my severe case. And yet no one ever suggested I stop taking the medication or even lower the dose!!
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Once again, I pay every month for a subscription and cannot read the article after I sign in. Iāve seen it on my bank statement. I even emailed madinamerica and didnāt get an answer.
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Yes. The STAR D trial was recently debunked for the second time.
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How is mad in America
Gaslighting people?
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I did get your email after all. It was in my junk folder. I replied.
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I did not get your email. Plz try again.
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Yes. I believe so too. Iām very glad to be out of yet another environment that is toxic for me.
I was in the MHS for 4 decades. I donāt want to be anywhere that claims to be one thing but is really something else, something harmful; AGAIN. Nope!
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They have suspended me. I donāt really know why. I just got a form letter that said it was for many reasons. I am glad.according to their guidelines the are not anti-drug and not anti-doctor. I am anti drug and I do not like MDs. So I am not in alignment with ICI. I donāt want to be in a place like that anyway.
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Thank you Bernadette. I am wanting to leave ICI myself. Iāve been warned three times now about being kicked out, for speaking with hatred and intolerance. I made some general negative statements about doctors because they almost killed myself, my mom and another ICI memberās son.
I never said I hated anyone. But I guess I am intolerant when it comes to people endangering the lives of my loved ones and people in general.
The only reason I havenāt left yet, is because Iāve come to really care about the members there. Itās the administration I do not get along with.
I agree, who in their right mind would not be anti psych drugs. The only reason I can think of is that theyāre being super careful so they arenāt sued or shit down by the powers that be. But it would be nice if they would just admit that.
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Press in that, and type Lori daniels. My email address will pop up. Press that. Then type your message to me.
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OMG!! Seriously???? Thatās outrageous that he would ask you to leave. He shouldnāt have done that!!!
I donāt understand. Really??? I didnāt even know Cooper had a problem with me. Please lmk what happened! I need to address this!
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I absolutely agree with your opinion of psychotherapists. They are indeed a huge part of the psychiatric āsystemā and psychotherapists are definitely NOT the exception to the rule that psychiatry does way more harm than good.
1. Out of the few times Iāve attempted going āoff my medsā in the past 38 years (not including now 2022) it has been one of my many psychotherapists who convinced me to start taking them again (Twice! The other times, they were physically forced in-hospital when I refused)
2. A part of the reason I stayed in an abusive relationship for 7 years was because my psychotherapist, at the beginning of my abusive relationship, had me convinced that it was a ānormalā way to start to any relationship by āfightingā like thatāthatās āhow to established boundaries ā. After a year of describing these āfightsā to her each week, I asked one day, āare you sure this is normal??? To which this psychotherapist replied, ā Heavens, NO! Why would you think that? She is abusive! My advice to you is for you to break up with her and find a girlfriend who has even less self-esteem as you, Lori. If thatās even possible!ā
Then a month or so later, she said, āI am really tired of listening to these complaints about your girlfriend, Lori. Until you break up with her, you are no longer allowed to talk about her in my office.ā
But by then I felt so trapped in my abusive relationship, especially with no one to help me figure things out, that I did nothing, kept everything to myself, and was abused everyday for another 6 years.
By the way, I felt so ashamed of myself, I never mentioned my girlfriend again to her. I did stay with that therapist until she moved away a couple years later. For the life of me, I cannot remember or even imagine what else my therapist and I found to talk about after that, as I wasnāt working and had no other friends. Maybe, I made up things to talk about? Happy experiences I had with my loving girlfriend??? I honestly donāt remember.
I was abused by psychotherapists and psychiatrists and by my lover. But at least, after we broke up, I didnāt get an invoice in my inbox from my EX!
Itās been months now since I stopped taking psych medication but every day, every hour, I experience severe painful symptoms, either from physical damage from long term psych drug use or from withdrawal symptoms. (I have doctors appointments every week to address these symptoms and conditions. Mostly, those doctors cannot help, anyway, really. The stress dealing with the regular health care system is a whole other horrible story.āAnd they also send a bill.)
When will I ever have to stop paying for their abuse of me????
So HECK YA! I totally agree, Birdsong!! Totally!!!
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BoansāWow! Your story is something else! Incredible. You should edit it all together and submit it here at Mad In America. It has been very helpful for me, in my new path away from the mental health system. Good luck to you.
https://www.madinamerica.com/submitting-a-blog/
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https://www.madinamerica.com/submitting-a-blog/
Wow! Your story is something else! Incredible. You should edit it all together and submit it here at Mad In America. It has been very helpful for me, in my new path away from the mental health system. Good luck to you.
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GinaāI feel your pain. I understand. You know I do. I am outraged at what theyāve done to you. You are absolutely right. Your destruction IS NOT OK!!! It is a horrible awful tragedy. You do not deserve this!!
You are a beautiful human being. REPEAT:you are a human being. You are not less than the psychiatrists. They may think so, but they are NOT better than you.
Try to know that. Try to believe in yourself!! Iām thinking of you, Gina. I need you. Please come find me on inner compass initiative. I would love to chat!!! Lori Daniels.
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Yes! Thank you very much! I really appreciate your dedication to real science, documentation and accountability. I like that you want to include that in your book.
Please help me. I am confused by your explanation about the numbers you add to the text.
āI have added a page number to the textbook references and often also to references to other books to show where the information can be found. Thus,17:919 means page 919 in that textbook (or, in a few cases, 1-2 pages further ahead, when the information appeared over several pages).ā
You say what 919 means. It means the page number. But what does the 17 mean, in 17:919?
What do numbers mean that do not have a colon in the middle? Such as the numbers at the end of your sentence here?
āthey do not have disease-specific properties.3,4,7,24ā
I think it takeās incredible courage and I applaud you for the work you are doing. Thank you so very much!
The psychiatric survivors need people with credentials like yours to aide in the fight for humanity!!
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Yes! Hope to see you there!
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Thank you Bill. Kindness is the new cool. I never wanted to be one of the cool kids in school. They always seemed so mean. But, now, I want to be super cool!!
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Nothing wrong with anger!! Itās normal. You were wronged! You were terribly HURT! We all have been hurt!! Let the anger fuel you. Fight. Fight for HOPE!!!
Thatās what I will do.
Thanks about my mom. Iām going to do my best to care for her. Sheās precious.
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Thank you Rosalee. Your words are so kind and your compassion touches me. I am very saddened and quite outraged by your personal tragedy at the hands of psychiatrists.
Your hope for me? Thank you! My plan and my path forward IS for more personal health and it is to hold the psychiatric industry accountable. I plan to do this is by telling my story to as many people as possible, until people stop turning to this institution of predators to solve normal human problems. My plan is to connect with other human beings and put forth love and compassion into the world, creating a world that I want to live in. A world with dignity, respect and equality for all humans. Because we are all the same. We are all different. We are all beautiful!
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I havenāt really cried yet myself. Sometimes I wish I could just cry it all out. Iām having a lot of trouble letting go of my anger about it all. Itās not just over myself. What really pisses me offāthey drugged my beloved mother 10 years ago, with two times the highest dose of Lexapro. And I was too fooled to stop them!! Sheās now titrating off it because she has osteoporosis. She is so sick with withdrawal, I want to scream.
Itās one thing when they do it to you. Itās quite another when itās your family they do it to!!!
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Iām very very glad that you have financial resources. That is awesome!!! I encourage you to use that gift to heal and
Live life to the Fullest. You deserve that!!! I hope you also spread the word of the injustices in the mental health system. I know that is the path I am taking. I know I am capable of that. We are all beautiful and have so much to offer.
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Your points are extremely valid, insightful and intelligent!! Thank you for sharing them!!!
And this that you saidāāLori, you have more brain than any shrink could ever wish for. You have GUTS. They know this.
And I am really sorry that those weak asses did their racket on you.
Thank you for your GUTS, your insight, your voice. It is a great voice.ā
WellāThat was a really nice thing to say to me. It brought me joy. Thank you very much.
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The mental health system isnāt the only crisis I see in this world. It is just part of how the āglobal predatorsā in this country and in this world are oppressing regular people. These global predators are extremely powerful, wealthy and dangerous. Dominance and oppression of individual liberty is their goal. They will use every resource they possess to shape the world in the way they want it shaped.
These predators have created a mess. It is a huge and very daunting mess.
But the predators are made up of individuals and these individuals are made up of the same basic particles as I am. Everything in the entire universe is made up of the same basic particles. They are human. I am human. Equal. We all have the capacity to create. If the predators created the current state; I can create a different one.
They lied to me and told me at 17 and reinforced it with their drugs and separation, for 38+ yearsāLori you are INCAPABLE.
I believed them.
I have woken up from that nightmare.
Unfortunately I am now in another one.
But nowāI see the truth.
The truth isāI AM CAPABLE. I am capable of creating the world I WANT.
I am so dismayed, so heartbroken by humanity and what we have done. But I have HOPE. I DO!
I am going to share our stories. I will not be deterred.
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Yes. Itās true. The psychiatrists themselves very proudly publicly announced the neuroleptics
chemical lobotomies!!
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I watched that video. My understanding after watching/listening to that YouTube videoāItās a civilian man who was run into by a police car then being kicked and beaten by the police . A man who the police were told, by hospital staff, had a diagnosis of bipolar and that this man had left the ER waiting room without permission, after waiting in the queue for over 24 hours and not getting admitted.
So, did he deserve to be chased down, run over and beaten for that?
I wonderā¦ if he had not had a diagnosis of a mental illness and had just been a regular man waiting for a bed because he had, letās say, chest pains, got angry and impatient and stormed out, he would have been beaten for that?????
(I wonder where that guy is now? Two years later)
Outrageous!!!
This system takes human beings and makes them āless thanā
We all have a right to be treated like full fledged human beings. Because we all are, even if we have mental/emotional problems.
Those policeman thought they had the right to ācontrolā that man because someone said he was mentally ill. And in that case, control meant using physical force. That physical force harmed him. He ended up in a medically induced coma!
Psych drugs are also used to control the mentally ill peopleās behavior. They also harm us. These psych drugs are harmful. I am living proof. I have a list of physical diagnoses from these drugs!! And there are tons of people out there just like me.
Please! Please start connecting with us. Treat us like humans. Please stop controlling us.
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Thank you for that keen observation. āBrokenā implies it worked well and in the benefit of patients. I strongly agree! I think the psychiatric industry has always been much more about the psychiatrists themselves than about healing their patients. More about exploiting the weak and helpless for accolades and profit. Psychiatry is a business. Just like big pharma. For almost 70 years now, theyāve make cozy bedfellows. A match made in heaven since 1954. Before that, psychiatry was successfully convincing greater society that lobotomy was in the best interest of the mentally ill.
I vow that it will NOT take another 70 years for our society to see these psych drugs in the same light that we now see lobotomies. People again WILL say,āWhat barbarism those treatments (psychotropic drugs) were! How could they do that (prescribe drugs) to fellow human beings???ā
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Thank you Michael.
I read your article. Sounds awful. Very very traumatizing. The mental hospitals now are not much better. However, in the past 10-15 years, they do not keep you there very long. Thank goodness. But only because itās too expensive. The mental health system, specifically psychiatry was broken then and it is still broken. I think itās time the psychiatric industry got out of the mental health business. All they do is prescribe pills that have no science behind them but do great bodily harm to people.
How about we let the other mental health clinicians take over and use compassion to connect with troubled, struggling souls like us on a human to human level. Why canāt we just try that for awhile and see how it goes?
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I am open minded and interested in looking into all of the sorts of things youāre thinking. I am a member on inner compass initiative where anyone can join. I welcome you, Psychiatric mechanic, to find me there and chat with me. https://www.theinnercompass.org/
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Thank you. You are so right. Thank you for bringing that up. It needs to be addressed!!! Many times when Iāve tried to stop taking psych drugs in the past, my withdrawal symptoms were seen as the return or as worsening mental illness symptoms. In response, I was given more psych meds.
This happens all the time. Making it almost impossible for people to stop taking their psych drugs long term.
It turns into a vicious cycle.
Thank you!
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Thank you for sharing that with me. I really appreciate your comments. Iām so sorry that you and so many others share my story. Itās a national, no worldwide, tragedy. Letās all turn it around, shall we? Iām tired of being a victim. We are all human. Psychiatry has dehumanized us and isolated us. We do not need to be diagnosed as āother thanā, then controlled and isolated from the rest of society by these drugs! We DO have a diagnosis. We DO have a special āconditionā It is called the HUMAN CONDITION! Every human has it. We just have it too.
Please find my on inner compass.com. Iād love to chat with you.
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Iām from the USA. Iāve clicked your link tapernurse. Iāve tried to use the email link on your website. My emailās always returned. Iām disappointed.
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Hi Lisa!! I feel such a bond with you and Iāve never even written to you yet. However, you read my story, āI Can Barely Breatheā and now Iāve read yours. Your story blew my mind! Iāve been around the horrific psychiatric block, so to say, and your story still made my jaw drop!!! I canāt decide if the doctor who took you off THREE meds AT ONCE cold turkey was just plain stupid or just plain evil. Iād love to chat with you online. Iām planning to come to DC to start shaking trees on Capitol Hill writhing the next 18 months. Have you heard of inner compass initiative? Find me there if you want to meet. We can chat. Iām a member. https://www.theinnercompass.org/
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The problem is that Iām having trouble getting any doctor to write on the record that any of my symptoms are adverse reactions to the psych medications.
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Thank you for your kind words. Yes Daisy! I would very much like that.
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You mentioned my journey. I am now going to choose my own path. I am no longer going to let the doctors or the mental health system decide the parameters of my life. I am choosing a path towards activism in bringing awareness to the regular hardworking members of society that psych drugs are the vessels being used for financial and corporate control of the economy and public services. Even if Iām accused of having grandiose manic delusions for saying something like that.
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Thank you. Itās extremely heartbreaking to me also because I keep reading other stories and the words they use to describe the physical and emotional things theyāre going through because these drugs could be my own words. I read a post and literally do a
Double take to see if my name is on it-ā wait! did I post that last night and forget? Thatās exactly what was happening to me!ā
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