Testimonial Injustice and Borderline Personality Disorder

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From The Huffington Post UK: The diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder frequently serves to invalidate the trauma of women who have experienced abuse.

“‘BPD’ is so dubious a category scientifically that it was almost dumped from the latest version of the biggest international diagnostic bible. It clusters women who dissent, who disobey, who resist together, as if these reactions were signs of pathology rather than spirit against the odds.”

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  1. “The diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder frequently serves to invalidate the trauma of women who have experienced abuse.” Wow – what a sweeping statement that serves so well to try to undermine the actual experiences of those who have been harmed by those who suffer from BPD. For seven years I struggled with someone who had this issue, although I had no idea what to call it at the time. I tried over and over to get her help. When I finally ended things, she conducted a distortion campaign against me, including false accusations of violence and stalking. Let me assure you, this does happen. It happened to me. Apparently, it does not serve your political purposes to acknowledge it. Unfortunate.

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    • I dated one, I have nothing nice to say. I constantly was getting stuck in these no win situations, it was unreal. Like she had a computer program to help create these no win situations cause she did not seem smart enough to manipulate things with such precision so I couldn’t figure out why it kept happening.

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      The article itself is mean though.

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    • You weren’t harmed by someone who “suffers from BPD” (irrespective of whether such a label was given by a licensed professional). You were harmed by someone who “conducted a distortion campaign against me, including false accusations of violence and stalking“. Saying that the lady did these things because she has BPD is like saying your head hurts because you have a headache.

      How does “she made false accusations against me due to her BPD” infuse any more truth than “she made false accusations against me”?

      I see in your comment history that you’ve been writing a lot about “personality disorders”, about your ex and Trump (his personality “illness”).

      I will not disrespect your experiences and pain. But I will refute your explanation of it.

      How often have we not noticed people make statements like “X person behaves this way because he probably has Y personality disorder”. As if that somehow explains why the person behaves that way. People think that using medical disorder terminology somehow fortifies an intrinsic flaw as a result of which the person in question behaves the way he/she does. They don’t understand that it’s because he/she behaves that way that they label him/her as such in the first place, and that such labelling is largely descriptive and not explanatory.

      As far as your ex goes, well, I have also been seriously harmed by an abusive psychopathic biological father who would fit “the criteria” for several “personality disorders”. But I won’t medicalise his personality. I just call the behaviour out on what it is. Not by wrapping it around in quasi-medical rewording.

      And no, this doesn’t invalidate or undermine anyone’s distressing experiences with people labelled with “personality disorders”.

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    • This guy has been dragging his personal anger towards his “ex” over a number of discussions, it’s probably time to start reporting it as it has a clearly misogynistic tone. Although his posts are illustrative of how psych “diagnoses” are used as weapons.

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      • This guy has been dragging his personal anger towards his “ex” over a number of discussions

        Nothing wrong with personal anger. All of us come here with issues that have affected us personally.

        it has a clearly misogynistic tone.

        IMHO, it did not have a misogynistic tone, and accusing a man of misogyny because he speaks out against a harmful woman is improper.

        Although his posts are illustrative of how psych “diagnoses” are used as weapons.

        Agree.

        These things being said, I strongly disagree with his interpretation and understanding of these issues.

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        • The weaponisation of DSM labels is interesting and terrible.

          Since I am not from the US, I couldn’t care less about who won the election. I have no personal opinions on Trump, Sanders or Clinton.

          But people’s mentality not difficult to miss. If the other candidate that people like, let’s say Bernie Sanders, had a DSM label like ADHD and won the election, they’d all be talking about how they are stigmatising the man due to their poor knowledge and ignorance about those conditions. If they were labelled themselves, they would speak the other way as well.

          It’s not like the rest of us have not been on the other end of “people with personality illnesses” the above person has written about in multiple posts. We simply try to have a more truthful view of these things than casting the person aside with labels and illness rhetoric.

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  2. It seems that BPD women on average are more physically attractive then ‘normal’ women. Maybe we tolerate more bad behavior in attractive people and cut them more slack so then they never learn to behave better ? They can treat any guy like crap but so what, why should they care when there are always 10 more standing in line to get theirs.

    I don’t know but still It seems that BPD women on average are more physically attractive then ‘normal’ women and there is something to that. There has to be.

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  3. The medicalisation of a human being’s personality is not treatment. It is defamation and libel. A mental health professional must be put behind bars for such labelling. 6 months per label.

    As far as people who have dated “borderline personalities”, give me a break. Bad behaviour can be called just that. Bad behaviour. Dump them if you don’t like them. Call them out on their trashy behaviour.

    But don’t medicalise the issue. Using the term “personality disorder” does nothing to explain someone’s behaviour. It doesn’t truly help those hurt by people who fit the criteria for such “personality disorders” and harms even people who were on the other end of abuses in their lives (who will then go on to be labelled with “personality disorders”). It’s a lose-lose situation.

    Everything you can do by labelling people with such tripe, you can do without labelling them by noting down behaviours in a descriptive manner.

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  4. “To really change the negative stereotypes, we need a new language, a new social understanding of why and how people end up in deep distress, and how contact with psychiatric services can damage.”

    Well since the psychiatrists’ DSM treatment recommendations for BPD are combining the antidepressants and/or antipsychotics, and doing this is known to make a person “psychotic,” via anticholinergic toxidrome poisoning. I’d say, yes, “contact with psychiatric services can damage.”

    The psychiatrists really need to stop turning victims of abuse into “psychotics,” with the psychiatric drugs.

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