In what a lawyer for the plaintiff characterizes as “a forceful ruling,” Ontario’s Court of Appeal found “no evidence” that a plaintiff ever agreed to medication, or was unable to weigh her concerns about side effects against the proposed benefit of medication. The court also found that the psychiatrist who ordered the involuntary drugging could not justify the decision to re-categorize her psychosis as schizophrenia, and that there was no evidence to support the assertion that without treatment the psychosis would continue.
From the story: “The new ruling, released on Monday, found the anti-psychotic schizophrenia drug Risperidone appears to have been administered without Ms. Anten’s knowledge in orange juice “to improve her compliance” with the treatment regime. It was later injected with her knowledge.”
Oh I bet she knew about the injections when they happened. That’s for sure.
A rare win for liberty in the Canadian system, a system that deserves the bad reputation it has. See the Ashley Smith forced injection videos for further evidence of how Canada treats those in mental distress.
In commonwealth countries, these ‘charter rights’ are a poor, pathetic rendition of rights compared to more iron clad bills of rights found elsewhere.
Take the Canadian comedian charged with hate speech for other examples of Canadian ‘charter rights’. Freedom of speech in Canada yeah right.
Just another country I’m glad I wasn’t born in to add to the list.
And Canada has huge levels of community based forced drugging too.
But this is a good news story, a rare win for liberty, where a subject of the British Queen got a win from a kangaroo court judge, and as we all know, in forced psychiatry cases, usually the judge is just a rubber stamp for the psychiatrist’s request to rip away rights over 90pc of the time.
I sincerely hope this woman knows how fundamentally lucky she is. She really dodged a bullet.
The fact that the press so cavalierly reports orange juice spiking by government agents, is telling also.
These stories remind me of a line from one of my favorite movie classics:
“Run, Toto, run! He got away! He got away!” – Dorothy, The Wizard of Oz
‘She’ in this case, obviously.
“because the psychiatrist who diagnosed her with schizophrenia admitted he was “making parts of [her symptoms] up.”
So, it wasn’t really a victory in any sense. A court didn’t look at the evidence itself and then indict psychiatry of lying or being ignorant of the sciences. Instead, a psychiatrist confessed that he lied about her symptoms and if he hadn’t of it would have just been business as usual: another win for psychiatrists everywhere.
“The court declined to order a new hearing, because Ms. Anten has been the subject of subsequent capacity hearings, with various outcomes. ”
Also sounds like she may still be trapped in the system. What a hollow victory. “Woohoo, I won my appeal from four years ago! Oh hold on, here come the police to take me to get my next depot injection as the result of all those other hearings that followed where the psychiatrists didn’t admit to lying about me!”
Pyrrhic victory yes. Sounds like a minor procedural error on the part of the psychiatrist. The psychiatrist might be new, he/she will learn not to make such rookie mistakes in the kangaroo court hearings, deny deny deny, don’t admit to making something up, etc.
Usual psychiatric ‘court hearing’:
Court: Oh you’re a brain chemistry expert who’d like to take ownership of a citizen’s body and perform invasive alterations to that citizen’s biology?
Court: Did you dot all the i’s and cross the t’s?
Court: Go for it! As the true owner of the citizens bodies, I hereby grant you forcible access to the body of this citizen.
Founding Fathers: Grave, spinning.
Below the article was this disturbing comment by “Susan”: “Sometimes whether or not a person likes it they are far, far better off medicated then to live in fear, anger. It certainly sounds like this lady needs some kind of treatment to calm her fears. Vincent Lee (who behead a young man on a bus in Ontario I believe) was let out a hospital because he didn’t want to take the meds.
The mentally ill have brains that are broken and need to be hosptialized [sic] until they are stable however long it takes.”
Unfortunately, comments are now closed so I didn’t have an opportunity to fight this hate speech.
Thanks Francesca. Well therein lies the key to seeing what psychiatry has perpetrated. It has lied to the world, and the world has believed it, now the world doesn’t see us as human. It’s a vast crime. It certainly wasn’t us that told this woman ‘the mentally ill have brains that are broken’, clearly she got that message from psychiatry. Or other people who got that message from psychiatry. Note how they always use one man’s crime to tar us all. You can set your watch to it.
And Vincent Lee? we are all entitled to say ‘what does Vincent Lee have to do with me?’
Nothing. He was a criminal, I am not.
I googled. Vince Li was never treated or hospitalized (much less “let out”) before the murder, and by media accounts, after the murder he was relieved to have a diagnosis and completely med compliant. As he is now considered stable, by Susan’s logic he should be released.
On another note, if I am ever hospitalized in Canada anything that is not sealed is going down the drain. How is drugging someone’s juice in any way medically acceptable? How in the world would she get a consistent, therapeutic dose of risperidone that way? What if she drank the whole thing for three days, then decided she didn’t want any juice that morning and went into psychotic withdrawal? That is just messed up.
Vincent Lee was an unmedicated nutter. Vincent Lee beheaded someone. Here’s another unmedicated nutter. Clearly, it’s only a matter of time before he beheads someone. It’s simple logic.
Remember the esteemed E. Fuller Torrey commenting on one of the gun massacres? He said something like “totally predictable — an unmedicated schizophrenic.”
God, it’s an uphill battle isn’t it?
“In a sharply worded ruling, the Court of Appeal said there was “no evidence” the woman ever agreed to medication, and overturned the Consent and Capacity Board’s “unreasonable” finding that the woman was mentally incapable of doing so.”
Mentally incapable of saying yes to a drug is the automatic judgement whenever ANYONE says NO (either an outright NO or the denial of being sick). To say no means you’re incapable of saying yes (due to your lack of obsequence, really).
The sneakiness of doctors, nurses, etc. is revolting and disgusting. I’ve experienced it myself. There is no justification for abusive, sickening behavior like that.
In New York, there was a sign posted in the hospital that assaulting any staff member of the hospital is a felony. That is abuse of the Law, as far I’m concerned. But then, when staff are abusive and injurious, let’s apply the same charges, and deprivation of privileged rights, to those who are so protected in the professional world. THEY have the greater responsibility and left in their charge and care, they lack the title of ANGELS when they’re hurting and harming people. They are far from being Angels.
No Equality, No Justice. No Justice, No Peace. No Peace, No Well-Being.
The most pertinent thing… Just give us peace!!! Just let us be assured we won’t be assualted again! That is all we ask!!!
Yet they insist they must have the ‘right’ to enter the body of any man, woman and child in society… because clearly their amazing discoveries in DSM labels and bought and paid for committees merit the reserve power to enter the living conscious bodies of perfect strangers.
No peace until full equality. No peace until iron clad legal protection from unwanted bodily invasion by quacks.
Sadly, the majority believe they have a claim on the most intimate part of our bodies, parts we can never wash out after they are finished having their way with us.
The human brain that enabled this comment to be written, these keystrokes to be entered, was once owned by the people you vote for at the ballot box. Those people, reserve the right to snatch ownership of this brain again tomorrow at a moment’s notice. Stop the violence against us. Please.
I’ve concluded, based on my research, that I’m a qualified candidate for a pacemaker. I know, I know – I’m not a doctor and should not “diagnose” myself. Well, I’m also not a total idiot and I know my body, my history and my symptoms better than anyone else. AND – I’m sure I read at least at a B+ level. Maybe A minus.
Now, what if I have that validated and confirmed by a legally empowered “doctor”, who is qualified to make the determination, but decide that NO – I don’t want it. I don’t want the “treatment” and I don’t want any surgeries or anything.
Will they FORCE me, to undergo surgery and take the pacemaker – if I don’t want it?
WTF is the difference between physical conditions and “mental”?
Well, heebie geebies IS CONTAGIOUS.
You can’t catch my sick sinus syndrome (self-diagnosis, and I’ll put money on it that I’m absolutely correct), but you CAN catch my rotten, foul, miserable BAD ATTITUDE and maybe terror, if I start talking about space aliens.
Because I’m on a streak and roll here, in being inappropriate in public … it’s confession time.
Anonymous, you are my FAVORITE delusion. At least I can say you’re my very OWN delusion, because I have some that aren’t even mine. But YOU, in my ridiculously self-amusing, self-generated delusion, are my internet husband. LOL.
I can’t help it. I’m so thrilled every time I see you around. Last summer, you had me bawling my eyes out (literally, I cried like a kid). This summer, you have me so excited and I can’t stop laughing at how amusing it is for me. Hubby. LOL.
Anyway, I doubt these goons, as you call them – and I love it – will ever stop the violence against us. But don’t worry. I put out a prayer request in Israel. For some Miracles. I’m gonna wash it down with a teaspoon of mustard.