Dr. Gordon Warme: The Curious Case of an Unconventional Psychiatrist


When I interviewed psychiatrist Gordon Warme for my first hour-long documentary, Mars Project, I kept thinking “somebody needs to make a movie about this Warme guy.”

Dr. Warme was remarkable because he was a sensible light in the confusing darkness of mental health discourse. He was one of the few psych-professionals who addressed the obvious contradictions of his specialty and I found his views to be refreshing. He bucked convention and was a counter-balance to mainstream psychiatry’s mantra: “be normal and compliant.”

Dr. Gordon Warme, an older man, on a black background, with blue painted scribbles lighting up his legs
Dr. Gordon Warme, from Bay St. Healer

Gordon Warme, MD, died in June 2023, at 90 years old. He had practised psychiatry for many years in Toronto after receiving formal psychiatric training in Topeka, Kansas at the Menninger Clinic. By the seventies, he had returned to Toronto, taking a position at the child and family psychiatry department at the institution known today as the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH). After many years there, he set up a private practice and taught psychiatry at the University of Toronto. In 2017, he wrote a Mad in America blog, “What if the Folly Is in Us, Too?” and also appeared on a podcast where he was interviewed by James Moore.

I was illuminated to Warme’s writing through David Reville, a Toronto psych-survivor and instructor of the History of Madness course at what’s now called Toronto Metropolitan University. Reville had known Warme as a family therapist 30 years earlier, and Reville lent me Warme’s book Daggers of the Mind. After I read it and most of his work that I could borrow from the library, Reville proposed an interview with Dr. Warme for Mars Project. A few years after the release of that film, I began adapting his writings for a cerebral, artful documentary. Those endeavours became Bay St. Healer, a project based on the life and writings of Dr. Gordon Warme.

I had to re familiarize myself with his work, reading his self-published paperback Brain Evangelists. I wanted to understand his thinking as best I could in order to create a stimulating environment for the interview so that he would feel comfortable expressing his most interesting views on camera. When he candidly commented that “psychiatry is a superstition too, but it’s a superstition I want to have arguments about,” I knew we were on the right track.

From his writing and appearances on television, Warme focused on the cultural role that shamans, witch doctors, and placebo cures played in medicine. As incisive as he was in alluding to the idea that some of his colleagues were fools, I believe he did so in the service of his patients. There was no placating of mysterious mental illnesses or giving trivial advice. Instead, he was interested in tackling problems and prompting his patients to examine themselves closely, to break out of old habits.

His early books are dense, information-rich field manuals, but his writing from 2006 is what really captured my attention. These works read like novels with deeply personal insights, reflections that bridge decades of memories together. I read the books intently; easy to do since they are written in clear, accessible language. After we interviewed him in December 2011 for Mars Project, he and I emailed. Most surprisingly, he began sending me chapters of new writing. In the summer of 2018, I shot his portrait photos and we had the first conversations about making a movie. What began as a probe into his claim that there is no proof that psychiatric diseases are biological in nature, expanded into a reflective portrait of a curious individual.

For as long as I knew him, he insisted there was nothing particularly scientific about psychiatry, a position that, I believe, he developed over decades, until his opinions grew out of fashion. Conventional psychiatry disregarded him, basically ignoring him altogether. I think perhaps he deserved a little more credit than what many of his psychiatric contemporaries were willing to afford him. Personally, I was shocked and impressed by his interesting ideas and stories. I was on a mission to translate them to the screen.

I told people that I was making a documentary on a controversial old psychiatrist, a creative non-fiction film where a bunch of facts were strung together into something resembling a narrative. It was worthwhile study, the thought experiments that materialized when trying to find imagery to compliment the discussion. When Warme writes about the role of the psychiatrist: “turning the patient into a work of art,” how can one translate that visually? On the reflection that doctors are nearly godlike in our society, how can one create a picture of the unspoken reverence of medical professions through animations and motion graphics?

I think most storytellers feel the pressure of omitting too many good stories. I felt the same way about the samples I dug up from his writing, pieces of text I would record him reading, the audio of which I would use in contrast to the on-camera interviews we shot together. In a December 2019 video shoot, I provided some old photographs for him to flip through and asked him about his childhood. He recalled his father’s abrupt arrest and six-year internment for the duration of WWII, simply for being of German heritage at the wrong place in the wrong time. This sparked an inner conflict between the evil-doer vs. the protector, which became a defining moment for his becoming a talking doctor.

There was his remarkable work as a family psychiatrist and sensible voice for gun reform. He and forensic psychiatrist Dr. John Atcheson were the primary psychiatrists in the inquest tasked with investigating one of Canada’s first student-perpetrated shootings inside a suburban high school in May 1975. Incidents like these aren’t exceptionally numerous in Ontario, but at that time, an adolescent could easily buy a rifle and ammunition from a hardware store. The incident was a massive shock to the community and it attracted a lot of press, so there was plenty of material to include in our film. Warme and Atcheson interviewed everyone: the suspect’s closest family, his classmates, teachers, and staff. They examined gruesome crime scene photographs and combed through police reports in order to draft their official report.

In this document, delivered to the Chief Coroner of Ontario, they stressed the need for the government to alter the law on the availability of recreational firearms. When I came along, fascinated by his role in the aftermath of the shooting, it was over 40 years later. He downplayed it, but I knew the events demonstrated his commitment to difficult case work and how it could help in protecting and healing a community.

I was particularly moved by the story of a long-time patient that made Dr. Warme see psychiatry’s errors. Cathy Jones (a fictitious name), is the inspiration for Cure of Folly. She made him see his profession’s shortcomings. They first met in Topeka, when he was an eager new psychotherapist. At 16 she was forcefully hospitalized and became tethered to psychiatry for the rest of her life. He saw how the medications she was prescribed lead to tardive dyskinesia and other ailments. He reveals a 20-year letter-writing correspondence with her and how she referred to him as “Wermie,” recalling how he brought her candy bars and took her for walks around the Menninger Clinic. It’s emotional reading, but it shows why he became so hyper-critical of the ways psychiatry sometimes ruined people’s lives. The two and half minutes I included in the film only provide a glimpse of a troubling and important story.

There are other moments that carry with them a subtler context, like walking around Queen Street in front of the shiny glass buildings that make up the new and improved Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, Ontario’s principal mental health authority. This stands in contrast to the quaint, faux bohemian shopfronts across the street, the side of the street Warme walks on. It was significant to show him against this backdrop because he had lived through major developments on this site. As a young medical resident in the late fifties, he lived on the property back when they still stabled horses. The once iconic 19th century dome of the old Provincial Lunatic Asylum at 999 Queen was dismantled and replaced by brutalist architecture. These structures only stood for a short few decades before their dismantling ushered in the mirrored facades of modernity and reinvention so valued by the corporate overlords now running the place.

During the last stage of his life and while filming the documentary, Dr. Warme resided on the northern end of Bay Street, Canada’s financial headquarters. From his vantage point overlooking the city, he contemplated an, at times, controversial career. The title Bay St. Healer playfully hints at Dr. Warme’s clientele and his own position within society.

Late in his career, he was candid about not prescribing medications to patients, even if they asked, deferring to more knowledgeable practitioners. And perhaps, more fairly, the field changed and maybe his most productive years were behind him. He had already established himself in family psychiatry, what more was there to do but reflect on his career? Agree or disagree, the culture of therapy is tied to language and class, like those in upper middle-class neighbourhoods of Park Avenue in New York City or Deer Park in Toronto. Is it merely a coincidence that the office of Toronto’s Psychoanalytic Society is in this affluent part of the city?

As a filmmaker, I’m keenly aware how mainstream documentaries and news networks push a point of view with obnoxious hosts, polarized opinions, fast-paced editing, striking sound effects, and slick graphics. There’s usually no room for opposing viewpoints or letting the audience make up their own mind. Its fast-pace is for pushing a point of view that probably doesn’t allow a deeper understanding of the subject or for the process of reflection. And that’s why I wanted to do something different. I felt that was the only way to do justice to Dr. Warme’s work.

In the same way that Dr. Warme and others pull themes from music, pop culture, and science on being a doctor and the duty of care, I did the same thing, pulling and piecing together bits of media related to what Dr. Warme wrote about and reassembled them into a film.

Last fall, after finishing the film (or abandoning it for my own well-being), I sent a copy of Bay St. Healer to some most-excellent folks at Mad in America and, a few short weeks later, they organized a virtual screening of the movie over Zoom. We had at least 200 attendees from around the world, and there was an active comments and Q&A chat board—complete with emojis floating up on-screen during the movie. That cold, foggy afternoon was one of the last times we’d see Dr. Warme in person. He died five months later.

Bay St. Healer was submitted to almost 70 film festivals worldwide, but only hit the screens of two regional U.S. festivals. In the old days, filmmakers relied on the support of these festivals to validate their work, but internet streaming has changed everything. While I never got the big, lucrative streaming deal, I did get three smaller distribution agreements. One is with educational non-profit Moving Images in Vancouver, their market is universities, colleges, and libraries. For readers wanting an easy way to watch it for themselves, I’m pleased to have the film on documentary streaming platforms Docsville and Guidedoc. Plus, there’s nearly an hour of free content, outtakes and extras on YouTube.

Gordon Warme was kind of an endangered species, since many psych-professionals today peddle cures and new technologies. It’s murky business, but refreshing, to have a character like him be as candid as he was about psychiatry. He was stubborn about being a good scientist and about finding proof. He didn’t rely on misleading diagnostic tools like the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a text that went through all its major edits over his lifetime.

Dr. Warme was an unconventional psychiatrist and I’m an unconventional filmmaker. We were kindred weirdos who found common ground despite the fact I wasn’t a doctor and he wasn’t an artist. Creating this film was a once in a lifetime experience and I count myself lucky to have been in his orbit for the last few years of his life.


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  1. “Late in his career, he was candid about not prescribing medications to patients, even if they asked, deferring to more knowledgeable practitioners”

    What were they more knowledgeable about if they were practicing pseudoscience?

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    • He didn’t prescribe because he didn’t believe the meds were beneficial and it was too easy to write a scrip, forget about it and move on. It’s to his credit that he didn’t fall into and was critical of the bio-med model. Amazingly, not all psychiatrists should be imprisoned and we as a society should be supporting those who see the errors and flaws within their profession. Like whistleblowers. We should support the truth, rather than penalize the person for speaking out against the organization, its structures and people within it. You say he’s arrogant and obviously hate all psychiatrists, but we need folks like him to be reflective truth-tellers, it’d be better for patients and the psychs if they could speak openly about cohersion, rather than forced into silence because their prof org wants them to hold the line. The only good psychiatrist is a dead psychiatrist? I don’t see the value in that or how we can move past old modes of psychiatry with that type of regressive mindset.

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      • “The only good psychiatrist is a dead psychiatrist?”

        Amazingly, I never said that. You have no right putting words in my mouth. Somehow this is the kind of BS that passes muster for posting.

        You don’t know what I need and you don’t know me.

        “Late in his career, he was candid about not prescribing medications to patients, even if they asked, deferring to more knowledgeable practitioners” is much different than “he didn’t prescribe because he didn’t think meds were beneficial.”

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      • “We should support the truth, rather than penalize the person for speaking out against the organization, its structures and people within it.”

        Which truth? Your truth? The one and only truth?
        Who is penalizing him for speaking out against the organization? I’m not doing that. As I stated, I believe the organization should be abolished. I’m criticizing him for his demeaning statements.

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  2. I don’t see a reason to lionize any psychiatrist that speaks the basic truth about his profession, but I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and read his essay published on MIA.

    “Terrible questions come up when we think about this: if we call them psychiatric patients, have we taken the first step toward judging them, assigning them to a category lower than ours, suggesting that they are pathetic compared to you and me? And if we stop calling them patients, are we ready to treat them as full citizens, make them face the consequences of their behavior like everyone else, including being hauled before a court if they break the law”

    This one paragraph is so incredibly disturbing. The arrogance oozes from the page. If we’re going to talk about consequences for behavior: what consequences have psychiatrists faced for joining with Pharma to perpetrate a massive fraud on the public? They call themselves healers while ignoring the trail of pain, loss, disability and death in their wake.

    The entire profession should be abolished.

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  3. I’ve never known a psychiatrist to protect any patient from “the consequences of their behavior”. What was he even talking about? The insanity defense? Did he think that people who were deemed insane by the court after commiting a crime were just set free?

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  4. I am a schizophrenic from India. I took drugs for more than 20 years & when it became unbearable, intolerable further I had to stop drugs, of course with support from my family. Suffered many withdrawal symptoms & only recently get rid of EPS & Tardive Diskinesia. Also Parkinson’s is hereditary in my family, but the drugs to counter whole body tremors, trembling- Pacitane, T-Hexy, Levodopa+Cardibopa, never worked & side-effects are unbearable, very unpleasant. Now after stopping all these drugs, I am free from my tremors, EPS, TD etc. Now I only take nutritions suggested by Dr. Al Sears, MD, without even a single side-effects, also supported by NIH researches. And sometimes mood stabilizers. But it is impossible to fight APA & DSM. In India, lack of awareness, & considering Americans as GOD, plus the law makes it, fighting with Psychiatrists impossible. As there are not one but a whole system producing thousands with same rules, mentality & ethics. And of course this system also contains some grains of truth. I have to personally study psychiatric textbooks, with some mainstream research also supporting my views. And I have many my own findings & opinions but can’t discussed & debate with open-minded, unbiased, unprejudiced, non dogmatic – experts, to confirm these. Will Mia help me to fight for my honest struggles to unearth the real truth? In my fight for the justice will MIA help me & give me some honest expert to fight with me? Or will this reply, my last hope will also go unreplied, Will be useless & fail to produce any results? As the Doctors are deaf & blind to my honest plea, feelings, thoughts, emotions, rational reasons & causes, observations, experiences, reflections, my studies – will also MIA do the same with me?

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    • Congratulations on your escape from psychiatric treatment, quite a remarkable story. Now perhaps that you stand outside Plato’s Cave for the first time, you can shed that burdensome label of “schizophrenia” pinned upon you.

      Right now, newly freed of your confinement, you may feel unique in your ability to escape the cave, but many have managed to do so over the ages.

      The resources you will find on this site are unmatched by any other network. You have many hours of study and exploration here, and in the links you follow from here.

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  5. So far, so good. I’m enjoying Bay Street Healer and thank the film maker for allowing us to see for ourselves what informs Dr. Warme. It’s also is a walk down memory lane. The first time we saw my son in hospital was at CAMH at Christmas time, 2003. We spent several hours sorting out the payment method down at the old Queen Street (dismal) location.

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  6. My Husband was diagnosed with Parkinson’s when he was 62 years old 2 years ago. The Levodopa did very little to help him. The medical team did even less. His decline was rapid and devastating. It was tremors at first, then hallucination. Last year, a family friend told us about Natural Herbs Centre and their successful Parkinson’s Ayurveda TREATMENT, we visited their website and ordered their Parkinson’s Ayurveda protocol, i am happy to report the treatment effectively treated and reversed his Parkinson’s disease, most of his symptoms stopped, he’s able to walk again, sleep well and exercise regularly.he’s  active now, I can personally vouch for  these remedy but you would probably need to decide what works best for you

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  7. An amazing and encouraging story. My late husband worked for 40 years on the scourge that is psychiatric treatment and what it is doing to innocent people. I am attempting to write about my husband’s work and will be including Dr. Warme along with others like R.D. Laing, David Cooper, Thomas Szasz, John Weir Perry, Loren Mosher and others. Hope I can find some of his writing–very exciting!
    Thank you Jonathan for your interest and ongoing work–keep it up!

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