Smoke ‘Em if You Got ‘Em: Rethinking Smoking as a Trauma Response

For people with trauma-impacted brains, smoking isn’t just a way to unwind after a tough day; it’s a tool to quiet an ever-present storm.

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We’ve all heard it before: Smoking is bad for you. It’s a bad choice. It’s an addiction. Society has been hammering this message home for decades. But what if the story is more complicated? What if smoking isn’t just about addiction or comfort, but about something deeper—something rooted in how trauma reshapes the brain?

B&W photo of a young woman smoking. Close-up on the cigarette being lit by a lighter; her face is out of focus

Research into Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) has uncovered startling connections between trauma and long-term health behaviors. ACE scores measure the impact of adverse childhood experiences, such as abuse, neglect, or household dysfunction, on long-term health and behavior.

People with high ACE scores—indicators of significant childhood adversity—tend to have smaller hippocampi and amygdalae, areas of the brain that regulate emotions, memory, and stress. Their stress-response systems don’t behave precisely like those without trauma. These differences aren’t due to personal choices; they’re the result of chronic adversity during critical stages of development.

You can assess your own ACE score in minutes by answering 10 questions: https://acestoohigh.com/got-your-ace-score/. The site also features tables, graphs, and charts explaining probabilities for various outcomes based on ACE score. In a nutshell, when a developing human brain is exposed to trauma, the body involuntarily releases stress-response chemistry that alters the development of key brain structures. These changes, in turn, affect associated brain functions and behaviors.

People with high ACE scores are more likely to do drugs (including alcohol, marijuana, tobacco, and a host of others). They are also more likely to struggle with depression, with finding and maintaining gainful employment, and with a variety of health issues.

When adults are exposed to enough adverse experiences, they can develop PTSD. Smoking is also more prevalent in the PTSD population than it is for the general population, too. Trauma seems to have a way of impacting brain function. For people with trauma-impacted brains, smoking isn’t just a way to unwind after a tough day; it’s a tool to quiet an ever-present storm others rarely face.

The issue extends beyond tobacco. People with high ACE scores often seek satisfaction—or simply relief or comfort—through substances like alcohol, marijuana, magic mushrooms, or opiates. Like tobacco, all of these substances are drugs. So while this essay focuses on tobacco use, please understand any principles at work apply also to other drugs used to find relief, comfort, and satisfaction.

These substances can provide comfort that those without ACEs or PTSD may not understand. This isn’t about indulgence; it’s about satisfaction in life—about finding a tolerable way to live with a trauma-sculpted brain.

For reasons science is still unraveling, smoking seems to interact with trauma-altered brain chemistry in ways that go beyond “relief” or “habit.” Nicotine or THC may balance or soothe these brains in ways people without PTSD or high ACE scores don’t experience. For someone with an ACE score of four or more or PTSD, smoking isn’t merely a “bad habit”; it’s often a biologically driven response.

Yet society’s response to smokers remains judgmental and punitive. The message is clear: Your trauma isn’t our problem. Your choice to smoke costs us money. Therefore, we’ll tax and stigmatize you. This approach ignores the evidence. Research consistently shows that people with high ACE scores are far more likely to smoke and far less likely to quit.

While smoking rates have declined overall, likely due to successful campaigns targeting casual and social smokers, what remains is a core group of “die-hard” smokers. Many in this group have endured significant childhood adversity. According to research, individuals with high ACE scores are significantly more likely to smoke.

For them, standard anti-smoking interventions like patches or gum often fall short because they don’t address the underlying emotional and neurological scars. They have a pesky biological reality to deal with.

Researchers have recognized the health consequences of having a high ACE score and the connection between die-hard smoking and a history of maltreatment.

So why do we keep punishing people for behaviors rooted in experiences they didn’t choose? People with high ACE scores are already more likely to face rejection, struggle in relationships, and battle chronic health problems. Adding financial penalties and social stigma only deepens their burdens.

Reducing smoking rates further won’t come from more taxes or shame. It will come from addressing the root causes—childhood trauma and the systems that perpetuate it.

Until science fully understands the relationship between trauma and smoking (i.e., drug use), let’s pause the blame game. People don’t choose their trauma, and many wouldn’t smoke if they didn’t feel they had to. Instead of punishing smokers for finding relief and satisfaction others enjoy drug-free, let’s focus on creating a world where fewer people need that relief in the first place.

Sadly, we depend upon the very political, economic, and social systems under which this trouble flourishes. To reduce the number and severity of ACEs children encounter, it would require us to fundamentally change or abandon the stress-producing systems outputting these results. Until then, we seem destined to continue unduly punishing people for being unduly punished.

Rather than continuing to punish those who turn to smoking as a way to manage their trauma, we must shift our focus to preventing the trauma in the first place. This requires a societal overhaul—a move toward a system that nurtures children, supports mental health, and addresses the root causes of adversity before they can shape a person’s life.

As long as we remain trapped in a cycle of stigmatizing individuals for their natural development, rather than addressing the underlying systems that perpetuate their suffering, we will continue to see the same patterns of behavior and outcomes. The solution lies not in punitive measures or financial penalties, but in creating a world where fewer people need to seek relief through substances, and where those who do can find compassionate, trauma-informed support. Until we commit to breaking the cycle of trauma, we will be forever bound to the consequences of our failure to act.

Systems to Blame

Every day in America, we hear about shootings, suicides, car wrecks, homelessness, racism, depression and mental illness, drug overdoses, partisan politics, and the growing impacts of climate change. Although each example may stand as an isolated, individual event, in reality these results are systemic. Our political, economic, and social systems combine to create these results.

One way to ensure that these outcomes continue is to treat each as an isolated incident, an aberration, or an individual problem—events without any underlying systemic cause.

Congress convenes to pass laws addressing these issues, and our justice system assigns blame to individuals, holding them accountable. To reduce mass shootings, for instance, we might propose laws restricting access to firearms. If we prevent certain troubled individuals from acquiring weapons, the idea is that they wouldn’t be able to carry out mass shootings. We might also limit the size of gun magazines to reduce the number of victims a shooter could harm at once. Or, we could try restricting the availability of automatic weapons, so even law-abiding citizens wouldn’t be as capable of carrying out mass shootings.

While these solutions aim to address the systemic nature of mass shootings by attempting to alter the conditions in which shootings occur, they still focus on controlling the outcomes, not addressing the causes. It’s like treating a disease by only addressing its symptoms rather than understanding and solving the root causes.

In his book Out of the Crisis, Dr. Deming tells a story about one of his clients who complained about the frequent fires at his production facility. Within just a few years, the company had experienced several fires, a clear impediment to production. Deming applied his statistical expertise and came back to the client with an unexpected finding: the company wasn’t having too many fires—they were having exactly the right number.

As it turned out, the same production system reliably producing quality product also happened to be a system producing fires with reliability. These frequent fires were systemic results. They were produced by the operation of this system.

Deming explained to his client that not only was it effectively a system for creating fires, it was, by his statistical analysis, a stable system. In other words, unless something is changed about how the system operates, we should expect more fires.

Imagining a conversation between Dr. Deming and the plant manager:

“What did you do after the first fire?” asks Deming.

“We cleaned it all up, fired the employees involved, gave the rest a good re-training, put everything back the way it was, and started making good product again,” replies the plant manager.

“Hmm,” says Deming, thoughtfully. “So, what did you do after the second fire?”

“Well, we cleaned it up again. We couldn’t determine who was responsible, so nobody got fired that time. But we re-trained ‘em again. Then we rebuilt again and started production again.”

“And a similar reaction to the subsequent fires?” asks Deming, as a pained expression starts to develop on his face.

“Yes, sir!” replies the plant manager. “We’re resilient if nothing else. How can we do better?”

“It seems you’re repeating two mistakes,” replies Deming. “First, when you put things back just as they were before, you imparted the same probability for achieving the same results. And second, you blame employees for systemic results, which seems unfair since you effectively trained them to produce precisely those results.”

In response to the plant manager’s blank stare: “Although your system reliably produces high-quality product, when it’s not on fire, it also reliably produces fires. Both outcomes are systemic and neither is by accident. Yet you treat each fire as if it were an isolated incident of mysterious origin, or the result of an individual’s poor decisions.

“In reality, your system is as fully responsible for producing fires as it is for producing product. Currently, your system is effectively designed to combust every so often. When you put it back precisely as it was, you effectively re-design it to burn again, giving it precisely the same probability of catching fire.”

“Why would you expect different results by putting everything back the way it failed and then doing the same thing again? The problems you are encountering are fully caused by the way your production system operates.

“If you want to assign responsibility for the fires, it would belong with those who designed a system that catches fire, not with employees operating a system effectively designed to catch fire . . .”

Of course the production line at this company wasn’t consciously, deliberately designed to catch fire. We can pore over the production plans and procedures, and nowhere will we find the objective of, or instructions for, starting the plant on fire. Yet reliably enough, it catches fire. Why? It was effectively designed to catch fire. Even if catching fire wasn’t an established objective or an intended output, the results are the same as if it were. By observing a system’s results, we can discern what that system was effectively designed to output.

Every system is perfectly designed for its outputs.

The system that produced quality products was also systematically producing fires. These frequent fires were not anomalies but stable, predictable outcomes of the production system.

Deming explained that the company’s system wasn’t just accidentally catching fire—it was designed to produce fires, albeit unintentionally. By simply replacing the damaged parts and retraining employees after each fire, the company was resetting its system to produce the same outcome, leading to predictable failures.

Here we are experiencing on a daily basis, shootings, suicides, car wrecks, homelessness, racism, depression and mental illness, drug overdoses, partisan politics, and accelerated climate change.

If Dr. Deming were here to apply his statistical expertise, would he conclude that these problems are systemic results? It certainly seems so. We have systems in place for reliably producing shootings, suicides, car wrecks, homelessness, racism, depression and mental illness, drug overdoses, partisan politics, and accelerated climate change. These results are not accidents. Systems producing these results appear to be remarkably stable, consistently generating these undesirable outcomes.

The plant manager’s response to these fires mirrors our societal response to systemic problems. We repeatedly clean up the aftermath, blame individuals (or elect new ones), and then restart the same processes that set the stage for the problems to occur again. It’s an example of an attempt to fix a system by only treating its consequences rather than addressing the systemic issues that are generating them.

Our systems produce undesirable results because of how they are designed and operated. And until we change these systems at a fundamental level, we will continue to see these outcomes. Whether it’s gun violence, climate change, or poverty, the systems in place are stable in their production of these outcomes. And until we acknowledge and address the systemic nature of these issues, we are destined to keep cycling through them.

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Mad in America hosts blogs by a diverse group of writers. These posts are designed to serve as a public forum for a discussion—broadly speaking—of psychiatry and its treatments. The opinions expressed are the writers’ own.

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  1. Alcohol, tobacco and other drugs have been around for thousands of years. They’ve been used in all types of societies. Many people do use these substances to deal with trauma but not always. They can be learned behaviors, ways of fitting in and being accepted or wanting to experience something different mentally or spiritually. A variety of people from diverse backgrounds can get addicted to them due to their addictive chemical nature. Trauma can change your brain structure but so can alcohol and drugs, in and of themselves, without emotional, psychological or physical trauma necessarily being present.

    I’m glad I studied anthropology because I got to see that these drugs were (and still are) also common in Indigenous communities even before colonization. It could be about trauma but it can also be about needing a sense of belonging/bonding or both.

    I think we would have to change human nature in order to change societies in the many deep ways that we should and I don’t think we can. We are inherently very complex and predatory. It is what it is. We can work on changing ourselves but not others. Laws, rules and regulations help but obviously not totally by any means. I think ego and denial are the main barriers to creating and sustaining more peace in ourselves, families and societies.

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    • I agree that natural drugs have been around longer than human systems of concentrated political and economic power. These drugs co-evolved with humans. Maybe kind of like the yucca moths and yucca plants. Nature provided remedies to those who need them. Of course, there’s nothing wrong with others playing in nature’s medicine cabinet, but it seems unfair to stigmatize those who need it for more medicinal purposes. The more pressure our systems place on us, the more value these natural remedies might offer. Our brains appear to be wired to be affected by them, which seems part of the mutual design. I wonder if our brains are wired to deal with more natural problems and our modern systems cause unnatural stresses that we aren’t designed to deal with.

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  2. I’m glad you brought up its many medicinal purposes because I was mainly thinking of the bonding and spiritual experiences that were so important to many indigenous tribes. A tribe that still exists in Columbia (one of the latest I studied) chews tobacco all day long. The men, not the women. There are animals, in the wild, that get drunk on certain fruit.

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    • Thank you for sharing these examples—they highlight how diverse the purposes of drug use can be across cultures and even species. I think you’re absolutely right that bonding and spiritual experiences play a huge role in how substances are used, particularly in Indigenous traditions.

      That said, my point is more about how trauma and systemic pressures intersect with medicinal use. As a biological response of trauma-sculpted brains. While animals and some cultures might engage with substances for reasons unrelated to trauma or stresses created by the systems of today, the modern challenges many people face—like chronic stress, alienation, or unresolved pain—often make these substances a form of self-soothing or coping. For those with high ACE scores (perhaps related to parental stresses), it’s more than that.

      In some ways, it feels like these natural remedies evolved to meet a variety of needs, but the specific relationship between trauma and substance use seems especially relevant in today’s high-pressure societies.

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  3. I know the point you were making which is a good one and I agree with you. However, I think there are people who do it to fit in and not necessarily because of trauma. College is a good example of that (parties). Although college is high stress too.

    I don’t think alcohol has any medicinal value but cannabis and other herbs do. They can help people to relax and they can help with pain too. Even though they are natural I think you have to be careful with how much you use and how often because they can become addictive and may harm the brain in some ways especially if they are used long-term. I think exercise, meditation and learning coping skills might be the best things to do to combat high-stress living.

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    • High-stress living and having a high ACE score are two different things, no?

      Brains sculpted by stress response chemistry are formed for a lifetime, just like any brains are for life. So it seems understandable that some with high ACE scores might seek long term relief. Many will be lifelong smokers. Can we blame them for wanting to feel better in life, even if it shortens their life or compromises their health in other ways? Shouldn’t they, too, have autonomy over their bodies? A right to choose for themselves? Their body, their choice kind of thing?

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      • Who’s blaming them? I would consider myself to have a very high ACE score and we are prone to being more stressed out throughout life in this harsh world.

        Why do you think I’m blaming people simply because I’m saying that taking drugs or drinking alcohol is not always about trauma but as a way to fit in with the crowd or to have a some sort of spiritual experience?

        We are highly social beings and most of us just want to go with the flow. There’s lots of trauma in this world but not everything is about trauma and that’s ok.

        Drugs and alcohol can do quite a bit of harm to the brain and other organs so it’s best to avoid them and make healthier choices in dealing with stress but that doesn’t mean that people who are trying to cope or fit in with drugs or alcohol are bad. They are a big part of our culture.

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        • I appreciate healthy choices, and activities like meditation and exercise are great options for managing stress, they don’t necessarily affect or help the altered brain structures of trauma-sculpted brains that are improved/soothed by the use of drugs. To say people living high stress lives should combat stress with exercise, meditation and learning coping skills is fine. To extend that same advice to people with, say, smaller hippocampi or amygdalae due to their exposure to stress response chemistry during development, seems suspect to me. Drugs may sooth or improve function of these trauma-sculpted brains in ways that exercise, meditation, and coping skills can’t. It’s not just high stress living, it a biological reality that isn’t shared with the general public for whom exercise, meditation, and coping skills are more useful. See what I mean?

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          • Unfortunately for your theory, it appears that these drugs “sculpt” the brain in most unfortunate ways that are not always repairable. We also know from experiment that activities we engage in, such as meditation, do literally alter the structure of the brain, possibly in just the ways needed. Buddhist monks, for instance, have been shown to have certain parts of the brain associated with calmness and focus are more active than the average person.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/11105s/scans_of_monks_brains_show_meditation_alters/

            Neuroplasticity has been shown throughout the brain, namely that brains are altered by experience, both in the negative AND in the positive. And as I recall, the most healing thing for a child damaged by abuse/neglect is not a drug, but a healthy relationship with caring adults. It literally heals the brain.

            So the idea that those damaged in their brain region by abuse/neglect are not capable of healing and need drugs to survive is not supported by science. Whitaker’s work demonstrates that in the long run, psych drug use does more damage than good. Have you read Anatomy of an Epidemic?

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  4. Substances such as tobacco have a long history with colonization and slavery. King James the 1 st was against it and wrote a treatise. Having seen my mother die of lung cancer after quitting a three pack a day habit and have seen how hard cancer deaths are with other relatives I think the subject of tobacco is in a universe of its own.
    I have no idea what the medical history with humans is for other substances. Though wine and beer also around for almost forever but the addiction aspects still are unclear to me because some are fine and others just can’t do it all.

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      • There was a time when cigarettes were included in soldiers’ rations. It’s a good thing they don’t do that anymore.
        There was also cocaine in Coca-Cola. Although illegalizing cocaine might have been a step too far, it’s good that they took it out a drink consumed daily by millions.
        I’m certainly glad they legalized marijuana after denying it to those who would benefit from it for so long.
        Any substance can be unhealthy or deadly if ingested in excess. Even water. I’ve never heard of a fatal marijuana overdose, however, but that doesn’t mean chronic use is without deleterious health effects.

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  5. Ultimately, I agree that drugs aren’t a long-term solution or cure for high ACEs for all of humanity. However, for individuals with trauma-sculpted brains, naturally-occurring substances that have co-evolved with humans can provide some relief when proven, accessible alternatives—or pharmaceutical interventions—are unavailable or cost prohibitive.

    An adjacent thought: some medications, like those used to treat multiple sclerosis, are known to shorten life expectancy, yet many choose to take them because they enhance the quality of life in the present. Similarly, individuals using substances like THC or tobacco are often seeking relief—whether from trauma, stress, or other challenges—even when these choices carry long-term risks.

    People with trauma-sculpted brains didn’t choose their trauma any more than individuals with MS chose their condition. While the contexts differ, the underlying motivation to improve one’s lived experience is comparable. This is not to dismiss the risks of smoking or drug use, but to foster understanding about how smoking can be a natural reaction to brain-altering stress responses.

    The data is clear and robust: individuals with high ACE scores are more likely to smoke or use other drugs. If alternatives were as effective for them as these substances—or if these substances were ineffective—they might already be practicing those alternatives. Notably, some studies suggest that nicotine may improve brain functions such as attention and memory. Perhaps these effects are even more pronounced for trauma-sculpted brains, making the associated risks worth it for those seeking relief.

    The real solution, in my view, lies in moving away from today’s unfair, stress-producing, unsustainable systems—overgrown, centralized structures of concentrated political and economic power—and toward smaller, self-reliant communities where love operates as a governing force. This may sound corny or idealistic, but isn’t it just as idealistic to expect our dysfunctional systems to produce better results than they do?

    Our current systems are fundamentally loveless, and perhaps that’s their greatest flaw. Love might not only be a missing ingredient but a necessary one for effective self-governance and healthier, more sustainable ways of living. If we trusted love as a guiding principle instead of relying on money and laws to impose order, we might finally experience a higher quality of life.

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        • There are so many behaviors that are really just a way to avoid the traumatic emotions. All addictions, and even disassociation are efforts to not feel the feelings. Many people who have done my program go from being wide awake to being deeply asleep, even when trying to stay awake. This happens when there is such a strong aversion to the emotion. But, when people use avoidance, the behavior itself causes problems. Smoking may work as a diversion, but the long term health consequences make this a poor choice.
          When people have the courage to let their traumatized emotions rise to the surface they experience extreme relief, and no longer have to just find ways to cope. People can do this work at home, Se-REM.com

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          • Thanks for your comment—it raised some intriguing points, but I found it a bit perplexing and had a few questions.

            On your website, you note that individual results may vary. Are individuals with high ACE scores and trauma-sculpted brains among those for whom your program’s effectiveness might vary, or are they part of the target group you expect to benefit?

            Your website also clearly states that your program is not effective for addiction. But in your comment, you describe behaviors like smoking (and all addiction) as stemming from efforts to avoid feeling emotions, which suggests your method might address these behaviors. Could you clarify how your program approaches “addictive” behaviors, given that your website clearly states it’s not effective for addiction?

            Expanding on the first question, is your program effective for individuals whose brain development was shaped by adverse experiences (and by involuntary releases of stress-response chemistry)—leading to physical differences in regions like the hippocampus, amygdala, and prefrontal cortex (compared to those without trauma exposure)? Are you suggesting that these physical, MRI-verifiable differences in brain structure are caused by efforts to avoid emotions? If so, can individuals consciously and deliberately alter the biological outcomes of their brain development by allowing emotions to surface?

            Your website also mentions the program’s effectiveness for “child abuse” but says it’s not effective for “child neglect.” Does this distinction imply a disagreement with ACE research, which links various forms of early maltreatment—including neglect—to long-term impacts on brain structures and behaviors such as smoking?

            Finally, ACE results include adverse experiences occurring during childhood, presumably even before memory formation–during critical stages of brain development. That’s kind of a problem with relying upon self-reporting. People don’t know or remember what experiences they had before a certain age.
            But given this, can your program help individuals release trauma they don’t consciously recall? For example, someone who smokes without associating it with trauma might have experienced early adversity, such as being dropped as an infant or being teased to tears by their siblings—events they cannot consciously remember but which still literally shaped them. So how does your program address trauma that is impactful yet inaccessible to memory?

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      • I appreciate your agreement more than you might know. The idea of smaller, autonomous communities governed by the warm, inner principle of love—rather than the cold, externally imposed mechanisms of politics and economics—has been with me for decades. But whenever I share it, it’s often dismissed as pathological: a delusion of grandeur, a utopian fantasy, or the byproduct of a Messiah complex—or maybe just smoking too much pot.

        Call me crazy, but I believe humanity faces a choice: either we learn to love and care for one another, or we extinguish ourselves because we didn’t. Maybe it’s designed that way. Unless we learn to care and share, we’ll die as a bunch of selfish brats, consuming all we can, fighting over who rightfully owns what the universe gave to all of us.

        George Carlin’s words come to mind, though offered in a different context: “Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.” A few of Dr. Deming’s words come to mind, too: “Learning is not compulsory, neither is survival.”

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          • The “overgrown, centralized structures of concentrated political and economic power” employ legions of lobbyists “associations”, investors, and middle men (and now “influencers”) who infiltrate legislative, legal/ judicial, law enforcement, and government channels to effectuate mass production and heavy promotion of both legitimate and illegitimate sales (in which they all double dip) and oversee distribution channels for any even potentially addictive substances (including alcohol, which seems to get a pass because of how entrenched that industry is in this, and keys not leave out the defense, oil, and auto industries), and even guns (which are appearing to be a de facto addiction, in the US at least), regardless of who’s using them or why. The entire capitalist system is based on that (cartel) model.

            “Pre-colonial” use of, eg, tobacco or cannabis or say, mead, for example (I am guessing) or other products might have had some of these elements in a relatively minor way. But even the (mid-19th century) Opium Wars had a highly (ugly) effective system of overseas distribution (the “spice trade?”) that devastated the communities they reached.

            “Regulation” seems to be a cover for greed and seizure of production/distribution, just like with agriculture and “health”. What is the pathological profile of those who massively profit from the contemporary production and pushing of various sources of addiction, especially in light of the fact that they have the resources to thoroughly research who is most likely to be vulnerable to their products (such as those with high ACE scores?) again and again and again, for life? (Shorter is better, because older people lose earning potential and when they are too far gone use more resources.)

            Alcohol and drug ads (which still aren’t banned) and the marketing of any addictive (sugar/soda) or coercive products (health care/psychiatry, substance abuse treatment, insurance, online shopping, beauty products, social media, entertainment, pornography — even tourism for chrissakes) aren’t geared toward occasional use — but to those who aren’t “hooked,” using the same techniques that any effective neighborhood drug dealer uses to deftly, cleverly entice the unwary to become regular customers while not so subtly maintaining illusions (like with alcohol, tobacco, gun, prescription drug ads) that glamorize their use to keep entrenched ones entrenched. (The internet itself is now its own delivery system.)

            Talk about gaslighting — then to blame users (such as Richard Sackler did) and furthermore to profit from “rehabilitation”?! How many users or families of users of these harmful products have ever been financially compensated for their losses after huge settlements from punitive lawsuits? That’s a predatory system in itself. And not even those who profit from it are immune from the same addictions or outcomes, just somewhat more comfortable, materially anyway, in the process. Wow.

            Eat what you kill seems to be a real theme in most businesses/societies now; and it all acts just like a virus. And to treat end users as the root of all evil (or for that matter to blame “immigrants”) is like deliberately ignoring the very huge elephants in a very small room (see: “Clifford the Big Red Dog”).

            The elephants aren’t people with high ACE scores. But that’s intriguing; glad you brought it up! 🙂

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