The Future of Mental Health Interview Series


I’ve embarked on a print interview series with more than 100 innovators and alternative helpers in the mental health field. The first seven interviews are now available for your viewing (they are listed at the end of this post) and I hope you’ll find them fascinating and useful.

Human beings can be helped in all sorts of ways: with better schools, cleaner water, less tyranny, more peace, and fairer institutions. Movements of the last hundred years have given names to these different aspirations for betterment: the women’s movement, the civil rights movement, the gay rights movement, clean air and clean water initiatives, and so on. Now another sort of “helping” is desperately needed.

We need a mental health movement that takes as its central tasks the following three:

  1. Exposing the current, dominant paradigm that claims that human experiences of distress are “mental disorders” that are best treated with chemicals and talk
  2. Providing alternatives to this paradigm and painting a broader, richer picture of what can help individuals in emotional and mental distress
  3. Creating facilities, organizations, institutions, helpers and a worldwide mindset that support an updated vision of mental health care as human work and not pseudo-medical work.

There is no single slogan to hang from the rafters or rallying cry to shout out that captures the essence of this much-needed movement. But the following may come the closest: suffering isn’t a medical condition. It would be pretty to think that there can be pills to treat life. Indeed, our everyday wishful thinking does a beautiful job of propping up the drug companies’ campaigns that try to sell us on the notion that everything unwanted, from anxiety ruining your erection to your boss stealing away another one of your weekends, has a chemical answer. But these challenges aren’t medical conditions; suffering and distress aren’t medical conditions.

Not so long ago women who disobeyed their husbands were diagnosed as hysterical. Slaves who wished to be free were diagnosed as oppositional. Men who loved men and women who loved women were diagnosed as deviant and certifiable. The future of mental health movement I have in mind is as much about freedom as are the women’s movement, the civil rights movement and the gay rights movement: namely, the freedom not to be labeled and drugged just because you are experiencing distress. Much better that you are genuinely helped than that you are labeled and drugged!

What are the answers? We would love some short answers that are the equivalent of pills. Unfortunately, there are only long answers and, too often, no answers. If we could rally around some simple, powerful idea like “treat women fairly” we could gain tremendous momentum and make real strides in providing human beings with better answers and better care when they are suicidal, despairing, anxious, addicted, or down some other rabbit hole. But the answers are not simple, for all of the following reasons:

  • Individuals in distress often do not make it easy for others to help them
  • The challenges of life, from poverty to despair to meaningless work to failed relationships, are tremendously painful and radically difficult to ameliorate
  • The particular causes of distress are invisible and unknowable
  • “Helping” can only do so much when the problem is something as all-encompassing and debilitating as life itself.

Nevertheless we do have some powerful ideas to champion and some slogans to shout out: ideas and slogans like “Stop labeling!” and “Stop all those chemicals!” and “Stop making childhood a mental disorder!” But an awful lot of education, effort and paradigm-shifting look to be required to help bring people from where they are, convinced that “mental disorders” exist and that “medication” treats them, to the very different vision that these slogans herald.

How do we get from here to there? One way, having to do with creating a new helping professional of the future, shifting the focus and practice of current mental health professionals, and paying more attention to the communities of care and other institutions that already exist, is outlined in my new book The Future of Mental Health: Deconstructing the Mental Disorder Paradigm. A second way is by providing as much simple-to-access, simple-to-understand information about “alternatives to the current paradigm” as is possible to provide. That is where this interview series comes in.

In this series I introduce you to people whose work you are likely never to have heard of. How much do you currently know about the Danish Hearing Voices Network? The Finnish Open Dialogue Method? The Australian Rogue & Rouge Foundation? Gould Farm, Rose Hill Center, or Skyland Trail? The free offerings of the British Psychological Society? Social therapy, humanistic psychiatry, or transformational coaching? I am guessing: nothing or next to nothing. You’ll hear about these and much more over the next one hundred plus days. These resources constitute a mosaic of great power and depth.

Georges Simenon, the Belgian novelist who wrote the Inspector Maigret mystery series and five hundred novels altogether, penned very short novels. When asked when he would finally write his “big” novel, Simenon explained that his “big” novel was the mosaic of his small novels. His “big” novel already existed: you just had to accept its form. We are in a similar position today when it comes to changing the landscape of mental health services’ provision. The interviews in this series are each short but together they amount to a big picture. I hope you’ll enjoy them, share them with your friends, and be provoked to learn more.

Please enjoy the first week of interviews:

Day 1: Bonnie Burstow on feminist psychotherapy and language

Day 2: Dan Stradford on Safe Harbor and mental health change

Day 3: Nicole Gibson on Australia’s Rogue and Rouge Foundation

Day 4: Peter Beresford on Shaping Our Lives

Day 5: Paula Caplan on bias in psychiatric diagnosis

Day 6: Lee Jampolsky on inspirational psychology

Day 7: Jackie Goldstein on communities of care

To learn more, go to: The Future of Mental Health: Deconstructing the Mental Health Paradigm

The complete roster of 100+ interview guests.

Visit the Future of Mental Health website, which is home to a reading list of more than one hundred books in the areas of critical psychology, critical psychiatry and anti-psychiatry.

Please enjoy the series!

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  1. Eric–Of course you are right. In your list of what makes reform challenging you forget, however, to list the global corporate police state that makes it extremely unlikely any humanistic plans will flourish. It is convenient for the oligarchy to have emotions criminalized and pathologized.

    BTW, the only novelist (we need a Harriet Beecher Stowe, for sure!) who is dealing with these topics is Aurelio Campanillo.

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  2. I find it interesting that the good Doctor of Psychology hasn’t included the International Schizophrenia Foundation or the International Society of Orthomolecular Medicine in his list yet. Maybe they’re too arcane for him, as the members and their patients are likely to believe that mental disturbances can be triggered by irregularities and imbalances in one’s biophysical environment and by correcting them through bringing these back into balance for the individual, mental disturbances can be reduced or eliminated.
    I don’t find this unusual, though, after discovering the above beliefs are anathema to big-time psychiatry and also to so-called anti-psychiatry- I remember the end of the TV conversation between Humphry Osmond and the liberationist girl after he demonstrated she was talking about the charade of medicine common in big-time psychiatry rather than the medical model as used in clinical medicine. “Then you’re saying going to the psychiatrist should be just like going to the doctor for the flu or a sore throat?” she said. Humphry Osmond and Mark Vonnegut just nodded, a “light has just dawned” expression on both their faces.

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  3. In a time when cruelty and fraud are like surounding waves rolling over us , coming from so many sources and directions , often camouflaged as rescue or embedded in the necessities of life : to weaken at times which is only human , can mean to be thrown into the rapids gasping for air by those grasping for more money and power who hesitate not at all to turn others into some kind of collateral damage or indentured ATM machine . Considering the increased rate of human being’s predatory actions against each other both on an individual and corporate cartel government scale , as panic rises , the time window for solutions to be envisioned across many fields in synchronicity that embody the idea of mutually guaranteed survival is not growing any larger. Abolishing coercive psychiatry will not be enough and the thought of how little a person can do alone compared to what needs to be done is paralyzing and leaves isolating seeming like an escape pod . I just recently saw the movie ‘The Big Short” which explains the last financial and housing market collapse and serves as an example of the mechanics of fraud in so many areas affecting humanity . I look forward to reading the interviews in hopes of finding some inspiration while at the same time intuiting that interviews with psych-survivors themselves would be most amazing . Thank you for writing this blog .

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  4. I think the time for “Harmagedon” to end is long overdue.

    Yet I just read about a federal “prevention” panel that wants to make the “mental health” dragnet more expansive (and profitable) by requiring everyone to be screened for depression at clinics everywhere by their GP’s. How terrifying is this since there is likely to be a push of medications in ways we haven’t yet seen? Medications widely being proven to be ineffective and dangerous. And, people will not understand that this “screening” is voluntary and one can refuse to partake like the PHQ9 they push. People need to start being good consumers in health care.

    For every article like this that shed light, we have a bribed idiot in Washington creating a yellow brick road from those who profit by creating and sustaining more human suffering.

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  5. These are the articles I like to read. It looks like you have gathered all the information in the mental health movement and described achievable goals. That is an extremely challenging with so much information and I agree with these goals.

    I liked # 3 on your list of mental health movement tasks the best, because it’s focus on a worldwide mindset to focus on human work. The Edgar Cayce Institute which I’m proud to follow says that global connectedness will become more important in decades to come.

    This article also aligns with a topic important to me which natural community supports and alternatives to care. I think this story I’m going to share relates to the point of alternatives to care paradigm. My Personal Recovery went in a new, uncharted direction when I learned about the local recovery movement here and they strengthened my mindset. Discovering how swimming, lifting weights, and journaling give my life more meaning.

    I think your tasks would be fantastic.

    ~ Pat Hayes

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