It gives me sadness to meet therapists in psychiatry who have lost faith in the people they are trying to help

From Mad in Norway: The disease model opens up a way of treating people that does not need to involve relationships at all. The most important thing this doctor thought he should do (and unfortunately I have seen a lot of this) was to assess medication, treatment, forced decisions and other frameworks for treatment, where he did not even have to meet the patient. An invisible power person behind the scenes, to whom the patients are largely at the mercy of. When important and invasive treatment is implemented in this way, what does it do to the patient’s experience and understanding of himself?

Read the full article here and the English translation here.Β 


  1. “Yes, to a greater degree than most other patients, YOU have had a hard time fitting in with the textbooks.”

    Wow! what an A class of caring physician, it would have been less reprehensible to say something like “I have had a hard time fitting YOU in with MY textbooks”. Like at least sharing responsability?. Even a little?. How haughty of him, again, among other things.

    “That the board of the Norwegian Psychiatric Association, in the public debate, still doubts an understanding that this is good and correct treatment, is very difficult for many of us to understand and to witness.” I am not agreeing it is good treatment, but there is a not so tiny difference between a good treatment in general, a treatment of choice, and applying, employing, using, a good treatment.

    So even if it were a “good treatment” as in a choice one, it still coul be terrible IF applied incorrectly: as in callously, unnecesarily, with disregard, imprudently, cruelty, etc.

    And to not answer the important question, maybe misguidedly: physicians are notroriously terrible patients, particularly when “sick” in their field of expertise. Seriously, we require more sympathy and patience, at least, than the “average”, even outlier patient.

    But dunno about brainwashed practitioners, some might even suggest themselves for ECT. With, ironically the idea of: problem solved…

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    • You deserve life. You deserve stability. You deserve to have more purpose here than just caretaker to your pets. You deserve a doctor who isn’t a total jerk. I’m so sorry you are suffering. There is more to life than you probable can see. Please consider a different doctor

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  2. I have bipolar and 8 months ago quit all my meds, meds I’d been taking for a decade. I did taper slowly but I did not have my doctor’s permission to do this as I know he’d be against it. ALL my physical health problems disappeared. Issues I’d been seeing many other doctors and taking other medications for, vanished. Psychological symptoms outside of my bipolar vanished. I had thought I was just slowly declining into psychosis for a decade but really it was the medication. I no longer slept 14hrs a day, constant brain fog, absolutely no short term memory. I became “normal”. The drugs did their job in that they kept me from being suicidal from bipolar, but I became suicidal because of my poor quality of life…. I still have bipolar of course, I’m not cured and when I quit the meds my mood swings became crazy BUT I read that the keto diet can help to control mood disorders. I’ve been on keto 3 months now and I’m more stable than I have been my entire life without side effects. But doctor’s don’t make money prescribing meat and cheese!

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