In order for an experience to create a life mission and strong sense of purpose, it has to affect you to the core. Though I was only on psychiatric drugs for a few years of my life (and the very lowest “clinical” doses available), they affected me so strongly and took away so much that I could never forget or simply leave that experience behind me.
I share this list, not to torture people who are on them or struggling to get off, reminding them of how much is being taken away (or could be taken away), but rather to validate the desire that many won’t have to take these substances, and will be supported in better ways.
I share this to validate how very necessary it is to create better systems for being with trauma and to facilitate the withdrawal process for those who would like to come off in every way we possibly can.
When I was on a psychiatric drug cocktail at age 21-22, I lost the abilities to do the things on this list with any regularity. Many of these things I could not do at all.
Once I got off of them, slowly and carefully, which was quite tedious and difficult, all of these capacities returned to me.
1. Reading
2. Thinking clearly
3. Communicating my thoughts with others directly
4. Night vision
5. 20/20 vision during the day
6. Eating all kinds of foods
7. Traveling
8. School work
9. Graduating college
10. Writing
11. Developing friendships
12. Developing romantic relationships
13. Walking more than one block
14. Aerobic exercise
15. Weight lifting
16. Discernment about what to eat and which supplements to take
17. Being attractive to others
18. Showering regularly
19. Brushing my teeth twice a day
20. Changing my clothes
21. Dressing nicely
22. Understanding my own experiences and being able to communicate them
23. Empathy for others
24. Intuition
25. Grasping and formulating complex concepts
26. Teaching others from my experiences
27. Yoga
28. Doing artwork
29. Dancing
30. Singing
31. Computer skills
32. Awareness of some current events
33. Appreciation of music
34. Sexuality
35. Leaving the house and socializing
36. Meeting new people
37. Trying new things
38. Seeing a future
39. Caring about people
40. Caring about principles
41. Feeling sad
42. Feeling excited
43. Feeling calm
44. Being awake during most of the day.
45. Researching topics and discerning accurately what is relevant to me
46. Working for money
47. Committing to regular activities/classes/meetings
48. Falling in love
49. Having creative goals
50. Learning
51. Grocery shopping
52. Detangling my hair
53. Expressing my feelings
54. Doing my dishes
55. Cleaning
56. Being able to benefit from subtler health treatments like acupuncture, homeopathy and organic herbs
57. Eating healthy
58. Loving people
59. Attracting friends
60. Engaging socially and feeling (somewhat) “normal”
61. Caring what’s going on in the world/my city
62. Caring about other people’s needs and acknowledging them
63. Being able to talk about my life without using unproven “mental health” pseudoscience jargon
64. Being able to see fact from fiction
65. Writing down and finding meaning in my dreams
66. Smiling for real
67. Wanting to help others
68. Caring about my life, health and future
69. Praying
70. Believing in God/Higher Power/Angels/Being guided
71. Having faith in myself and my life
72. Inspiring trust in others
73. Inspiring creativity in others
74. Typing fast
75. Journaling
76. Shaving
77. Wearing deodorant
78. Regular menstruation
79. Awareness of moon cycles
80. Sexual arousal
81. Normal hair growth
82. Immunity
83. Cooking
84. Staying out of the house all day
May all beings be free to choose, and to choose with true informed consent, which cannot be expected from a doctor or medical care provider, but must be gotten with a combination of research, self study, intuition, personal accounts and fierce, unbiased logical analysis.
We must take back science from under the fist of commercials and indirect advertising.
Brilliant. Ta very much
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Thanks John!
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I just beginning a very slow taper off 75mg lamictal and 5 mg lexapro, after several years on litium, latuda, celexa, and more. I am so excited to get pieces of my “old” self back! I really look forward to smiling without forcing my face into that position.
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Ohhhh I wish you the best! It’s so sad what these drugs do to us. Really glad you feel excited and that you have the courage to taper.
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Getting off of the lithium I had been prescribed at a too high dose for three years, was like coming back to life. I had felt like most of my traits had been forever lost, but they all came back and I then managed to leave the only abusive boyfriend I’ve ever had. It was completely contrary to my nature to be in such a relationship for even a day, but on the lithium, I was unable to rally myself to do anything, even when in a dangerous situation. I felt forever stuck and permanently damaged by both the lithium and the erroneous belief that I suffered from an endogenous mental illness that needed to medicated with a chemical straitjacket for life.
It took me a few more years to finally get it and stop ALL the psyche meds for the bipolar disorder I never had. Seven years later, I find that my moods are actually quite stable. PTSD, anemia, and drugs are the only causes of the “mood problems” I’ve had, and those were only “mood problems” because I and mental health professionals weren’t recognizing the causes of my unruly moods, which justify being disturbed and suffering, at times.
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I couldn’t help suggesting EmpowerPlus, by http://www.truehope.com, a supplement used by bipolars and depressives to get off their medication and maintain balance in their lives. It is worth giving the website a look. Double blind placebo controlled studies have been done for this supplement, so it works for most. Even if you are off meds, this supplement will bring better balance to the brain. I am sure Chaya would recommend it.
Good luck,
Luisa
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Hi Luisa,
I’ve actually never tried that supplement, but I have some friends who have used it. Have you tried it? Thanks for the tip.
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Wow, what a story wileywitch. It’s true these drugs affect how we are in relationships and awful that the apathy you experienced on Lithium caused you to be harmed that way.
Yeah, I’m not sure I believe in “mood problems” either. Feelings, moods, they are normal parts of life, even “extreme” ones. There’s extreme stuff going on and we are human so we respond to it with strong feelings. Totally valid, and not diagnosis worthy.
Glad you got out.
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Medication women in abusive relationships is a common theme. Psychiatry is almost always about blaming the victim and making sure the abuse continues.
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Yes, very sad B.
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LoveLife32,
Glad to see you’re working on your taper, good luck!
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Thank you, Someone Else. I have been under the care of my new doctor, as recommended here, Dr. Jodie Skillicorn (Akron, OH). She is simply the best. I am in good hands, now. She is confident I do not have bipolar, as is my entire family, and I will heal.
It shakes me to my core to know that people are misdiagnosed like this day in, day out. And children, too. =( Oh my.
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Chaya – How wonderful for you…congratulations! Good that you had the will, insight, and maybe even bravery to be yourself, yourself.
Hard to believe that I was on various psych. drugs for over 30 years….all blamed on the fact that it “ran in the family” I was started on them at the end of a love affair….you know, sad and having trouble sleeping….
When I finally decided that this was a ridiculous thing, and tapered off (a mess, but, oh well, it’s over now…) , the BEST thing of all was knowing that whatever I felt, whatever I did, whatever I dreamed, whatever I hoped, was all me – with no chemicals or poisons addling my brain or emotions.
It seems especially wrong that children and young adults are given psych. drugs in their formative years – how can a human being “form” when his or her basic abilities to think, reason, and feel (let alone his or her physical self) are impacted and affected by chemicals that alter these basic aspects of life, of a living organism?
Here’s wishing for the day – sooner rather than later – that we will be able to look back at this sorry chapter being over and that our precious selves will be treasured and, if we hit a rough patch, be nurtured to health as opposed to being hit over the head with drugs.
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Yes, ebl. I hope it’s sooner than later! It is a sorry chapter in human history.
I’m glad you are free to feel now without having to wonder whether your feelings are being manipulated by a drug. Thanks for reading!
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“It seems especially wrong that children and young adults are given psych. drugs in their formative years – how can a human being “form” when his or her basic abilities to think, reason, and feel (let alone his or her physical self) are impacted and affected by chemicals that alter these basic aspects of life, of a living organism?”
That is such a good point. These poor souls may never be able to develop into their true selves and know what it means to be off these zombifying poisons.
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Very true and sad B.
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Thanks Chaya,
Glad life is so much more joyous for you without those horrid drugs.
It’s like being reborn!
eng
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Thanks eng! Yes, it is like being reborn. Actually, in the context of spiritual emergence, I truly had a death experience while on 7 pharmaceuticals (most psych drugs). Being reborn happened so slowly and gradually as I withdrew, recovered from them and recovered from the extreme harm they did to my body and spirit. But that death experience happened for a reason and somehow seemed fated in my life, like something I needed to go through, both to understand the harm done by psych drugs and to understand death more intimately.
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Yes, I do think this article will encourage people to get off their drugs.
I am more and more impressed by people who have the courage to free themselves from these poisons. And I have also seen that people who do this have become some of the best activists in our human rights movement. Anyone who can choose to go through the ordeal of getting off these poisons is really almost heroic.
Thanks for this article, Chaya. It will help a lot of people.
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Thanks Ted. I agree, it is a fight of the spirit to be free and it strengthens us somehow.
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I never knew if I would ever even recognize myself once I got of the meds., was surprised, and even elated (as much as I am able to be now) that much of my personality, interests and thought processes remain in tact. Your list is very real, and much of which is true for me too. There is still much of my old vitality missing even years after recovery from psychiatric abuse, but that which has been recovered is genuinely heartening, and gives me strength to appreciate my body and mind’s resilience to the medical trauma I was subject to. I think I would like to make a list now. Thank you for sharing Chaya Grossberg!!
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Thanks, I would like to read your list.
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Thanks Chaya
Fantastic Blog and it’s all true.
How about (strangely enough) getting a proper night’s sleep.
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Thanks Fiachra. Yes, that’s an important one. Some of those drugs made me sleepless yet tired all the time.
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Hi, Chaya,
I really appreciate your personal story, I really do, because of its hopeful message. But I feel, it also gives the impression that getting off drugs is a wonderful panacea for all life’s ills. I suspect that there was something else going on with you – a realization, a determination perhaps, that you no longer subscribed to the old you. I have seen the best and the worst with my own relative. He was off medication but not not able to contemplate higher education, physical exercise or many of the other items you list. He was on medication (always striving for the lowest possible dose) and he is tackling things he couldn’t do before. I’m not saying it’s the medication that is the magic bullet. It is not. I want him off medication because it is a detrimental to good health. I think it’s perhaps an emotional maturity that allows him to do things he couldn’t do before. The goal in the end is to be off medication. Too many people believe,from reading MIA, that getting off the medication will mean that life returns to “normal.” I have found it is a lot more complex. (And I appreciate that you also talk about the complexity in your other posts.)
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Thanks Rossa.
What do you mean by “I suspect that there was something else going on with you–a realization, a determination perhaps, that you no longer subscribed to the old you.”? I very much subscribed to the old pre-drugged passionate young me. Sure, there were things I did that were quite immature and that I wouldn’t do again, but I needed to go through them to learn from life. It would have been nicer to have more support that wasn’t pathologizing though. Most of my paranoia and fear came from living in a society that isn’t safe to go through a spiritual emergence in.
Or did you mean the old me was the drugged me?
In any case, I regained these abilities without all that much determination-they all naturally came back to me.
It’s a lot more complex, as you say, since my life was never “normal,” before or after drugging… nor did I really want it to be, haha.
I also agree that as a young adult, there were ways in which maturing helped me to move beyond certain experiences. Getting off psych drugs isn’t the only thing anyone ever needs to do to have the life they want. But I do validate those who feel it is an important step.
Going off psych drugs won’t solve all of life’s ills. I still have plenty of problems in my life- actually more in a way. Lying in bed all day didn’t give me much opportunity to have problems other than my own health and lethargy.
There are all kinds of struggles in my life all the time, which in fact I’m grateful for to some degree. Being drugged out of my mind to eliminate those problems didn’t really work, unless you consider inactivity to be a life goal.
It sounds like your relative is having a different experience. My story isn’t everyone’s story. I wish your relative the best in health, knowledge and true freedom, however that looks for them.
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This reminded me of the recovery rates for, “Schizophrenia,” in the rich world, where drugs are prescribed, and the poor world, where on the whole they are not. Basically almost no one recovers in the rich world and the majority do in the poor world. It also reminded me of a freind who said the drugs made him fat and lethargic. Some compare so called anti-psychotics to chemical lobotomys.
People are individaul and some people find they cannot cope without them but it is still true that drugs that turn people into zombies will make pretty much anything interesting difficult.
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You’re definitely right there John,
I think it’s accepted that the drugs can cause rebound. They also compromise the system leaving the consumer worse off than ever. It can take a long, long time to withdraw and safely adapt, and lots and lots of grief (the alternative being “relapse”).
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That was certainly my experience, John. Thanks.
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Rossa, I am wondering about how long your loved one was on and off medication when he or she had the results you describe. (e.g. was your loved one off at first and then finally went on medication or did he or she start off on medication. Did you see the positive effects from medication pretty quickly or was did the positive effects go very, very slowly over a long period of time? I realize I should look to see if you have a personal story somewhere on this site.
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Hi, Sa,
I’m in a bit of a rush so can’t answer Chaya’s question yet but will briefly answer yours. I have never seen positive effects that I attribute to the medication. The medication stinks. Any benefit I see is for emergency situations. But, I am in touch with people through my blog and other avenues who are fearful of putting their relatives on medication because of what they read in MIA and / or they think that all that stands between their relative and full recovery are the drugs and they are frantically trying to get their relatives off them at all costs, even though there is so much more to learn about how to recover in order to sustain a recovery when one is off the drugs. I’m probably not making myself clear. I think Chaya’s post is very good, because it is positive and shows how well off someone can be one day. Just a note of caution that it doesn’t work this way for everyone, and of course, most people here know that. So maybe I didn’t even need to say it.
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Thanks for your thoughts. I think I will check out your blog.
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Hi Rossa,
Some times ‘normal’ people think about medication in terms of will power (I’ve tried that one myself -unsucessfully; and nearly fatally).
Aiming for the lowest level can be best, and eventually the meds should lessen and lessen.
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Being completely psychiatric drug free is beautiful. As I slowly tapered off the drugs parts of me resurfaced. The horrific Akathesia stopped as the re-flux, colon spasms, shaking, bouts of hysterical crying for 6-8 hours not being able to sleep for 72 hours, muscle spasms, itchy skin rashes, being hospitalized repeatedly for nausea, vomiting and stomach upset, painful leg edema, confused thinking, loss of energy, gaining over 100 pounds, ect. More and more of who I used to be became evident as I tapered and I was surprised at my renewed inner strength to endure further tapering came into play. The drugs had caused profound emotionally instability and after tapering my emotions stabilized.
To have so many people remark how different I am now, stable, calm, fun to be with. When I was drugged my reading stopped and now I read easily for hours . Psychiatric drugs robbed me of my life and once again I am me but a changedt me because no one can go through what I did and be the same.
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What a powerful testimonial aria! That a lot of dramatic shifting. So sad that this is what is called “medicine” for “mental health”. I, too, could not read and had a lot of the experiences you described including Akathesia.
Thanks for reading and sharing your story!!!
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For me the picture looked like this : trauma transfer from world war II , but mainly straight up mercury poisoning by still sanctioned ADA (dental association) via so called silver amalgam actual composition 53% mercury.In addition undetected infection under right upper most rear molar.All aggravated to beyond the Valley of Gwangi by the Fraudulent Gov Medical Industrial Electric Psych-Pharma Modality Machine. While in the background the Vietnam War and Civil Rights Struggle the Hippies (I was one) all to the tune of the best music ever.
For me it lasted from the age of 16 till 55 including 5 escapes from various mental hospitals a terrible suicide attempt ,an attempt to go to Vietnam, a realization even the French ForeignLegion wouldn’t accept me and a determination and persistence like no other to find out why this was happening to me even though I gave up at times.The diagnosis that followed me like a shadow first the S word then Manic Depression then BiPolar Depression . The Treatments just standard – Thorazine ,Stelazine , Cogentin ( The Chemical Lobotomy) luckily only one series of 15 electric shock treatments ( they could of kept em coming) , Than the non standard— actual experimentation with (Injections stopping the ability to breathe) in a “hospital ” which used to be a prison in Acre, Israel.Back in the USA and finally Halidol the great brain shrinker. One thing that surely saved me was non compliance whenever possible. Advanced Hal Huggins Dentistry made all and the main difference. Also Traditional Naturopathy ,Homeopathy ,and http://www.Yuenmethod .com an energy healing system also helped . Knowing my parents loved me was indispensable to my carrying on.
And then when finally after some self invented and modified modalities and mostly cause of the dental work I was finally able to come off the last of the Haliperidol . I must say I was reborn in much the same way Chaya describes . I’m not saying I didn’t lose some IQ points . But I sleep like a baby , I need no “meds”. I’m 68 years old, my beautiful girlfriend is 49 . And except that I am aware other people are still suffering (I hope they don’t lose hope and still trust in themselves) I did pray to G-D a lot. And I know that at least on the inside things can change for the way better. The outside still a work in progress depending on how much we care about each other.
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Fred, your story is so epic and your healing is so precise, filled with hope and encouragement for others. Have you written or are you writing your book?
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Alex , Thank You for encouraging me so strongly. I’ve hoped to write a book but haven’t started . It seems like such a big project but I see that it would be of help . I ‘ll definitely get started.
The experiences I’ve had and the natural healer’s I learned from have shaped me into some kind of a wounded healer. I really appreciate your efforts to help enlighten people about the reality of energy healing. Many times have you clarified some aspect of healing with great patience. We survivors must redouble our efforts to believe each other and investigate further when one of us speaks of healing in ways unfamiliar to us . We will all become stronger and we all have important things to do using our own unique talents. Take Care, Fred
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You remind me of what is exciting here, Fred, that we are pioneers in uncharted territory. We’re all discovering this together, one step forward at a time. Some overlap, some not, like a tapestry weaving itself to create something new from all this. I’ve no doubt your contributions to this exploration are intended for many. From what I’ve read on here, your experience is vaaaaast! And you write about it so brilliantly and passionately, truly.
And, it’s what I love about your writing, Chaya, and what you share, and what many on here share so openly, the exploration of new territory, post psychiatric trauma. A lot is being born from this. I think it’s very generous and socially valuable sharing.
I’m not sure the world has ever known such transparency as those of us who share about psychiatric survivor-ship, especially given social media now. I think it’s exciting, and historic. I see pioneers, here. Gives me an optimistic feeling and strengthens the vision of change happening, as we, ourselves, heal, grow, and, transform. Feeling very grateful for what I’m privileged to witness here.
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Thanks Alex! You are right! We are in a new era of possibilities, despite how bad things look in the psychiatric system.
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I love the phrase psychiatric survivor-ship. It makes me feel acknowledged for how strong I’ve been while taking meds, switching meds, and tapering meds. Nobody can possibly understand the strength it takes to walk through drug induced depression and mania. *celexa, lexapro, lithium, latuda, lamitrogine, etc. I have survived all of this. I will continue to survive and then thrive once I am med free. =)
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What a story Fred. Reminds me of how much we are survivors. It’s great to hear you are doing so well now and were able to come off! And sleep well. That is a big one…I feel so rested and spiritually renewed after sleeping now, compared to when I was on those drugs.
Thanks for reading and sharing your story here.
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LoveLife32 I wish you the best! We are survivors of such intense “treatment”, which has taken away our basic capacities to be ourselves, yet perhaps ourselves grow even stronger and emerge more powerfully out of that.
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Chaya,
Do you mind elaborating on the time frame you went through. For example how long did it take you after you finished your taper before you could do all those things again?
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Hi Sa,
It was different for different things. Some of these things I was able to do again almost as soon as I started tapering while others took years to gain back. Which specific ones were you most interested in knowing about?
Thanks for reading,
Chaya
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Gorgeous, I relate completely. To my list, I’d add 1) cry and 2) laugh.
After I took my last dusting of the nine drugs on which I had ended up, I cried for about 3-4 days. I thought I would, literally, die from grief–a painful liberation of intense releasing, but liberation nonetheless. It was a long haul after that subsided, but at least I could feel my heart again, which to me, means feeling life. I realized how the drugs had blocked me from feeling anything in my heart, which is actually what guides me now, so in essence, they blocked my inner guidance and my connection with my own spirit.
Eventually, I could feel joy and love again, too. The hard part had been remembering that I had once known these feelings, but not being able to conjure them any longer.
There is no substitute for feeling life, regardless of how it feels. Life is a rainbow of feelings to experience.
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Well said Alex. Beautifully put. I remember especially how amazing it was to hear music again and be able to feel it. I too was unable to cry. As for laughing, I laughed a lot while on psych drugs and withdrawing, but it was as a way to discharge all of the weird stuck energy I felt. Thanks for sharing your experience and for reading!
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Thank you! I needed to read your words.
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Chaya,
I too would like to know specifically when some of your abilities came back, specifically the ability to read, to critically think, to write, to feel emotion, and to relate with others like a relatively “normal” human being. I am completing my journey out of psychiatry in June in preparation for graduate school in the fall. I feel all the abilities that I listed above are going to be crucial to my success in graduate school, and I would be curious to know when these abilities came back for you. Maybe several months, or years after coming off psych drugs?
Daniel
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Hi Daniel,
I started to be able to read again while I was in the process of withdrawal, towards the end. Writing was a gradual process. I was able to write towards the end of my withdrawal, but my writing didn’t return to being clear and well received until about half a year later, or more. It was a gradual process of being able to think clearly again. Though there were a few odd times while on psych drugs that I wrote things that were coming to me from beyond and were poetic and clear. But I wasn’t able to write good essays or anything until after I was completely off for at least a few months.
I went back to college while I was still in my withdrawal process and it was the first time in my life my writing was received poorly by my teachers, in that they seemed to think I was intrinsically a bad writer, or just didn’t get how to write.
Feeling emotion…well that too was a gradual and complicated one, so it’s hard to say. I gradually felt more emotion with each withdrawal in a way that can’t be quantified.
Being able to relate with others as a relatively “normal” human being…another very tricky one because I emerged from psych drugs and immediately got involved in activism, so I was accepted by that community right away and felt normal there, so that eased me back in, but I think it took me at least several years to feel “normal” around other people, especially since I was so young and my adult identity hadn’t been formed yet.
I think age and how long you were on the drugs are important factors, as well as how much peer support you have, peers meaning people who have been through withdrawal and get it.
Good luck with grad school!!!
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All I’m on now is Effexor–150 mg. Wish me luck. I start tapering by 10% this weekend. I have already come off Trileptal and Abilify. I have reasons to believe the latter was causing me to have deep cysts continually. The other kept me from walking much at all. I have done it all myself with no help from anyone who lives nearby–certainly no medical help.
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