A Psychiatrist Tries Antipsychotics: Seroquel

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From Fugitive Psychiatrist: “This only seems fair.

Today a patient told me that if I ever put him on quetiapine again he would jump off a bridge. That seemed dramatic, but in keeping with his dramatic personality, so no, I didn’t commit him to the hospital. I asked him (rhetorically) if he was getting side effects. There was a long list. I asked if those were more or less problematic than another manic episode. He encouraged me to try the medication and let him know. I’ve never been manic, nor have I smoked crystal meth, so it would be hard to compare, but I decided to take him up on his offer nonetheless.

I am literally going to get a taste of my own medicine.”

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14 COMMENTS

  1. You get used to this poison eventually. The body readjusts, provided you are on a relatively low dosage (you can’t indeed function on a high dose).
    It also stops working eventually, and leads to drug-induced ‘psychosis’. Psychiatrists don’t recognise it, of course, they just switch you to something else or dramatically increase the dose. It is almost funny, but you can also die from the experience, like happened to me.

    It is probably the most addictive of the range of the new anti-psychotics.
    I take it, at 50 ml a night. I can’t even start thinking about tapering it off, due to my life responsibilities (raising a child, taking care of the cat, loving my work, etc). I would try, if the psychiatric hospital was a safe place to be to check in for a while if you feel you are distressed.
    But it isn’t. And the long-term consequences of the anti-psychotics are a time bomb. They ruin you, they make you addictive, etc.
    This stuff can be used only for a very short while in case of real emergencies, but currently? It is a harmful drug.

    • So true, the first day I was prescribed Seroquel, I got voices in my head for the first time, it was January 14, 2002. One never forgets such a horrendous event. Although, it was one of those psychiatric, add more drugs to attempt to “cure” the adverse effects of the drugs you’ve already put someone on, crimes.

      All the psychosis inducing “antipsychotics”/antidepressants/anticholinergic drugs are neurotoxins. Some help some people sometimes, I do know that. But especially when combined, they absolutely do create psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome, a known form of medical poisoning.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxidrome

      And since intentionally poisoning a person is a crime, and all doctors are taught in med school that both the antidepressants and antipsychotics can create psychosis, via anticholinergic toxidrome, I call it out for the systemic psychiatric recommended crime (intentional poisoning) it was.

      The motive in my case? Proactively preventing a legitimate malpractice suit while profiteering off of covering up a “bad fix” on a broken bone of mine and medical evidence of the abuse of my child. Which I eventually learned, from being handed over my family’s medical records, and picking up the rest of my medical records. Trusting your doctors is a dumb idea today, just propaganda.

      And I learned from subsequent research that covering up child abuse and other “zipper troubles,” especially for the religious leaders, has been the primary actual societal function of both our psychologists and psychiatrists, for over a century.

      https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2019/01/23/18820633.php?fbclid=IwAR2-cgZPcEvbz7yFqMuUwneIuaqGleGiOzackY4N2sPeVXolwmEga5iKxdo

      https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/04/heal-for-life/

      But our psychologists, psychiatrists, and religious leaders will do anything to continue to attempt to cover up this now multibillion dollar, primarily child abuse covering up, “dirty little secret of the two original educated professions.” I’m one of the many “widows” mentioned in the Preface of this 2007 book, written by a legitimately disgusted ELCA insider.

      https://books.google.com/books?id=xI01AlxH1uAC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

      Our country needs to start arresting the pedophiles and child sex traffickers, instead of having the psychologists, psychiatrists, religion/government controlled social workers, et al continue to profiteer off of silencing, defaming, and poisoning the child abuse survivors, and their legitimately concerned parents, en mass.

      But if our “mental health professionals” get out of the child abuse covering up business, they’ll have next to no business at all. Since today, “the prevalence of childhood trauma exposure within borderline personality disorder patients has been evidenced to be as high as 92% (Yen et al., 2002). Within individuals diagnosed with psychotic or affective disorders [depression, anxiety, bipolar, or schizophrenia], it reaches 82% (Larsson et al., 2012).”

      None of our “mental health” workers can even bill ANY insurance company for EVER helping ANY child abuse survivor EVER today. Systemic problems….

      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-child-does-not-have-bipolar-disorder/201402/dsm-5-and-child-neglect-and-abuse-1

      But this means neither the “mental health” workers, nor the mainstream doctors, nor the religious leaders who own the hospitals, wants to end their “dirty little secret of the two original educated professions” child abuse covering up and profiteering crimes. “It’s too profitable.”

      What do we do when the leaders of our society have become completely corrupted? And don’t get me started on the bankers’ crimes, as a banker’s daughter, I know all about them as well. The systems are satanic. All need to be judged fairly by God.

      As Chris Hedges stated, “We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.”

      But I will say, LOL, “There has to be a patient population that doesn’t want to feel emotions, work, have sex, take care of their homes, read, drive, go do things, and want to drop their IQ by 100 points.”

      No, the antipsychotics are satanic, as are all those who force and coerse these neurotoxins onto innocent others. The psychiatrists forgot to learn from history.

      • I thoroughly believed my drug induced episode was proof of my hereditary brain disease. Doctors don’t lie and medicines are only helpful I had been taught as a kid.

        The anafranil was terrifying. I was so scared of experiencing it that I did whatever the quacks told me afraid it would happen again. It did. Repeatedly. They told me it was all my brain disease at fault. NOT the medications.

        I went back since I knew hallucinations/etc. weren’t normal. But I lacked insight into the moral bankruptcy of the gas lighting dealers who call themselves doctors.

        I have more faith in the word of a used car salesman or a carnival barker than a psychiatrist.

        The Swindle of the Century.

      • Hi Someone Else,

        The “Treatment” Causes the “Illness”:
        Its on my Medical Notes that I “declined” drug treatments in 1980. (and I was comfortable in doing this).

        But in 1983 when I was given permission to discontinue all drug treatments (“suitable” for “Severe Mental Illness”), I was incapable of surviving without them; even though the drugs themselves were disabling me. The ensuing Hospitalizations are included in my Notes.

        I suffered Compulsive Anxiety over “Everything” when I managed to carefully withdraw from the Drugs in 1984 , but I managed to find Psychological solutions for the Anxiety.

        The fact that the Disability Ended with an End to “Medication” – can also be seen in my Notes.

        ANXIETY SOLUTIONS
        I can identify with this young man’s anxiety position even though my anxiety topics were more mundane.

        BBC News – Cure my OCD: ‘I thought I’d killed someone’
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-49501432

        I believe that everything that helped me Recover can be found in Eckhart Tolles “The Power of Now” – but it might take (some) Practice and time and “suffering”.

  2. My ‘gateway’ drug following a 20 minute diagnosis of bipolar 1 when I came in for $ stress & insomnia.
    Result was my 1st of 2 Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome ADRs. Hospital, vitals monitoring all nite, paralysis….and 11 years later escaped with a removed ‘lifetime’ bipolar/SMI following the 2nd NMS, facial tardive dyskenisia, brain lesions, and anaphylaxis for good measure. 2 more years of titration and withdrawals.
    Since I’ve been clean The only problem has been 16 ‘partial’ seizures.
    Thanx, APA.

    Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.

  3. There is a much better written account along these lines here, written by a psychiatrist who was part of a trial of droperidol and a benzodiazepam on healthy volunteers. https://rxisk.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Gwen-Jones-Edwards.pdf (PDF download). Personally I would like to see all mental health workers made to take one of the medications they will be involved in prescribing for a week or two as part of their training. I don’t think many of them really recognise how unpleasant the side effects can be.

  4. Why almost no one in “mental health” can read a book, hold down a job, or have a relationship.

    And some guy called “Alexander” on the site yells at the doctor with ye olde “just like insulin for diabetes” propaganda.

    I was afraid of leaving too much personal info or I would have responded that:

    A. Psych drugs correct nothing. At best they’re emotional pain killers.
    B. According to shrinks these drugs are harmless and have no effect on anyone “normal.” So this proves that’s a lie too.

    No one listens anyhow. Reading a short article from the APA Journal is too hard I guess. SMH. Hopeless trying to reason with the public.

    • Oh dear, I never even looked at the comments. “Sick grammar” 😀

      Personally, if I’m going to be completely disabled by drugs, I’m gonna have some fun in the process. Why anyone who isn’t propagandized about “mental illness” would choose Seroquel over cannabis is beyond me. Both give you the munchies and couch lock but at least cannabis makes you happy! And there’s evidence that CBD in cannabis helps regulate blood sugar whereas Seroquel and other neuroleptics can cause diabetes. It’s a no-brainer to me!

  5. If more doctors would personally test their drugs, fewer patients would be on them. I applaud the doctor here for taking his own medicine. Lucidity was not something I achieved through the use of neuroleptics. Ditto, “sanity”. Lucidity came out of ceasing to take neuroleptics, neuroleptics, in my case, being an impediment to clarity of thought.

    Why do so few doctors test the drugs on themselves they use on their clients? Easy, because they know! Neuroleptics are what the natives used to call ‘bad medicine’, that is, such drugs are toxic substances, and as such, poisonous to the central nervous system.

  6. At the community mental health center where I worked the psychiatrist dared all of the staff to try a neuroleptic back in the esrly eighties- no one dared take him up on the challenge because like Silly Dally we knew their were problems. No scientific knowledge just inherent fear.

  7. If you don’t gain lucidity from 50mg+ of Seroquel, then you were lucid already, and the effect of too much light is the same as too little.

    Or, there wasn’t much going on in your head prior to taking the drug. And then it’s like comparing one square meter of desert to another square meter of desert.

    Thanks for putting me on to this writer. He writes well and is interesting. Having scanned his blog I found a lot I align with, particularly his take on social control which is like my take, with a few extra baubles.

    Not sure why I wrote this and posted it. No-one asked me what I thought about this writer and I wouldn’t expect anyone would want to know either.

    In fact I question why I write anything online in comment boxes. It’s a dirty habit?