Open Dialogue and ODDESSI: What Have We Learned?

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In late August, the results of a large randomized controlled study of Open Dialogue, known as the ODDESSI trial, were published. As I awaited them, I reflected on my own experiences with Open Dialogue (OD).

I first learned of OD when I read Anatomy of an Epidemic. That book challenged current standard psychiatric practice with respect to the long-term use of psychiatric drugs. At the time I first read Anatomy, I considered antipsychotic drugs (APDs) essential to the treatment of people who experienced psychosis or mania. Anatomy argued that long-term use of APDs worsened outcomes. I found the book sufficiently compelling to prompt my own review of the research data and to formulate my own conclusions drawn from those data. I have written about this in many earlier blog posts.

One challenge for me is that I had limited tools beyond APDs for helping people who were in the midst of psychotic states. At the end of Anatomy, several alternative approaches were discussed, including Open Dialogue, which had been developed in northern Finland in the 1980s.

Group of people sitting on chairs in circle and discussing some problems together during therapy lesson

Several studies on Finnish OD have been published. The subjects in those studies were individuals experiencing their first episodes of psychosis. Since OD was the only treatment offered in the region, the researchers compared their outcomes to those of people who had been treated in another area. The outcomes were stunning. After five years, only about 20% of those treated with OD were on disability, versus about 60% in the comparison group. About 20% of people in the OD group were ever treated with antipsychotic drugs and, after 5 years, about 17% were still taking them. In the comparison group, those proportions were 93% and 75%, respectively, numbers which mirror current standard treatment.

I was fortunate to attend conferences in Finland and Norway, where I met clinicians who were experienced in OD. I later received training and was able to bring that mode of practice (or at least aspects of it) to my own clinic. What I learned was that the use of medications was only one part of a broader shift in both the conceptualization of mental illness and the implementation of services.

OD involves having a team respond to a person in crisis within 24 hours of learning of its onset. The team arranges an initial meeting in a location that is most convenient for the person and invites family members and/or other important people in the person’s life to participate. This same team stays with this person and the network through the crisis.

The conceptual shifts are related to the attitude of the clinicians. They engage with a sense of curiosity, uncertainty, and humility. OD does not embrace a conventional clinical approach where the experts suggest treatment based on the diagnoses they formulate. Rather, it recognizes that there might be many ways of understanding and making sense of a crisis situation. It was reported that, often, the crisis would resolve and medications were not needed or could be stopped. In the conventional approach, the diagnosis dictates the recommended treatment. If the diagnosis is schizophrenia, for example, the expert consensus is that antipsychotic drugs should be started as soon as possible and, often, are continued indefinitely.

I found OD to be a compelling and deeply humane way of working but I also learned how hard it is to implement and sustain. The reluctance to assign a psychiatric diagnosis quickly is problematic in part because (at least in the US) diagnosis is integrally tied to how payment is made. Training is long and, with the turnover in our systems, it sometimes felt like we take one step forward as we train people and two steps back as they leave. And then there are the logistics of having a team that is able to respond quickly and remain with a network through the crisis. Bringing many people together to a meeting is a challenge.

Mental health systems are large and expensive. There are often many ideas about effective treatment. To implement OD, one needs to convince people who are unfamiliar with it of its value. When the current ODDESSI research team was organizing their study, they published a review of existing published studies and concluded, “It is vital that an extensive evaluation of its efficacy take place.” For these reasons, many of us have eagerly anticipated the results of the ODDESSI trial.

ODDESSI was an audacious and remarkable study whose aim was “to determine whether Open Dialogue was more clinically effective than treatment as usual.” We owe those who conducted and participated in the study—through COVID no less!—much respect and gratitude. Clinicians in five mental health trusts in and around London were trained. The researchers identified clusters of general medical practices (GPs) and randomization took place at that level. For instance, if an individual was identified as a candidate for the study, the person was not randomly assigned to OD or treatment as usual (TAU). Rather, treatment assignment was dependent on that of the GP cluster. This is an important distinction that makes sense for this type of team intervention. But it does mean that individuals and clinicians knew what treatment they were receiving.

This study was not designed to be a replication of the Finnish OD studies. Rather than focus on individuals experiencing a first episode of psychosis, a broad swath of people was eligible. Participants were not recruited based upon psychiatric diagnosis. The criterion for inclusion was that a person was presenting in a “mental health crisis.”

Ultimately, 494 individuals consented to participate and 354 attended an initial interview. I am not going to delve further into the characteristics of this cohort with the exception of pointing out that a minority were diagnosed with psychotic disorders—31 (11%) in the OD group and 46 (21%) in TAU. In addition, most people in this study (71%) were employed at the time they enrolled.

The primary outcome measure was time to relapse following initial recovery; raters were blinded to the treatment. There was no difference between the groups. There were also no differences in secondary outcomes (for which raters were also blinded), which included time to first recovery and total days in recovery. The risk of having an additional inpatient admission was lower in the OD group.

There were a number of questionnaires completed by participants (who were not blinded to their treatment assignments) and the results of those self-rated measures, which included satisfaction, overall health, and recovery, favored OD.

The initial research on OD had been on individuals experiencing their first episodes of psychosis. The use of OD, however, is not confined to that patient cohort; it was the treatment model for everyone who sought care in and around Tornio, Finland. ODDESSI is a test of that system of care. This is valuable but I am not sure the results reported thus far will be compelling enough to influence those who fund mental health care systems. The researchers promised future reports addressing the economic aspects. The OD cohort had fewer hospitalizations; if they can demonstrate significantly lower costs, that will create a powerful economic incentive for implementation.

I hope there will be future papers that address the logistics of implementation. Having teams who respond to a crisis and stay with the network through the crisis is a logistical challenge. I would like to know more about how this was accomplished. In their initial press conference, the researchers said that only a small number of network teams included family members. They alluded to lower use of medication, improved clinician satisfaction, and reduced staff turnover in the context of OD. These are all important topics and I look forward to learning more.

At the same time, many questions remain about the value of OD in the treatment of psychosis. Kim Mueser wrote in a commentary about the available pre-ODDESSI data that OD “promises to fundamentally alter the long-term trajectory of schizophrenia.” Can a majority of individuals experiencing psychosis recover with limited use of APDs?

In my own experience, OD has helped me to meet individuals and their families in a thoughtful and respectful manner that acknowledges that when a person experiences psychosis, it is often a crisis not only for that person but also for the family. It provides a framework in which I can hold off on using antipsychotic drugs and remain open to finding other ways of addressing the crisis. This seems important because we already know that there is a sizable number of individuals who go on (regardless of treatment) to have good outcomes. Employment of the principles that characterize OD enhances my ability to identify them and avoid assigning them prematurely a dire diagnosis. But that is different from altering the trajectory of those who would have fared poorly with traditional treatment.

Although some of the people I have treated using OD principles have done well, the outcomes I observe do not come close to matching the OD study outcomes. That might be a reflection of my limited clinical skills but, despite being someone who appreciates OD, I await replication of the Finnish data.

OD is a manifestation of a collection of values. Many of us who support the broader implementation of OD do so on the basis of these values: reducing fragmentation of care; elevating the voices of the people at the center of concern; inclusion of families; practicing with transparency, respect, and humility; and embracing uncertainty and flexibility. We might not need research to inform us of the importance of those values, but we do need more evidence if we want to make claims about the impacts those values—when embedded into a treatment approach—have on outcomes.

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  1. One thing I would add is that research into the efficacy of having teams who work with people in the community has been done. The model is Assertive Community Treatment (ACT) and it was also developed in the 1980s and is well-studied. ACT has been demonstrated to reduce inpatient hospitalization. However, ACT does not include the values of OD. It seems that ODDESSI thus far replicates the value of having teams who work with people in the community but does not speak to the specific effect of OD.

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  2. Well Sandra good to hear from you and I remember you open struggle with what you have been taught and this type of reality for support for folks in crisis.
    There are several issues not brought up but important and I am adding in for all to read and po der.
    Yes the label directly tied to payment. This is Mott only true of health butt also education where in Ohio at least public schools get different amounts T’s of special education funding for again different categories.
    Both category and labels fluid and changes many tine from one professional opinion to another. At best a very quick snap shot but much of the history – the who , why , what ,where and how not at all seen at all . At worse it is like a conviction with an almost no ramp off rank .
    Secondly the history of the treatment. It uses an old old pattern that at times has been found to be really helpful . One can search through all human civilization and find it. Go into versus having folks come. Probably a yes and approach is forever needed. Sone folks need a visit others want to visit.
    I saw this most clearly in the Selma Fraiberg MSW Michigan and California research and actual work with parents especially mothers. I was involved with one program a two year home visiting program with the concept of not only what is your story but how do you want me to help you at this time ? Sheet the concept of trauma in more ways than many in her time .The other history is the story of Swiss asylums especially the childhood of the human who created the Rorasch sp Test. He grew up in an asylum but the pts and staff intermixed. There was an orchestra , a theater group , and other community interactions. A kind of more so called professional Geel Belgium. And the crux as you point out money and sometimes things don’t work for many reasons but the powers that be want and need to have things look good in terms of outcomes. So much so the pressure can create out right falsification of data.
    Then finally there is the how of tbjs need for support. Altered mental states can come from many different avenues. Snd sonetines in most cases mixed together as when one looks at the backside of a tapestry .
    So environmental the air, the water , the soil, the housing, the workplace , the food . Long ago Alice Hamilton MD documented some of these issues within families and call places.
    Then there is the trauma and intergenerational trauma documented by Ma y over the last two hundred years. Inventions and scary for many . And as we all are co survivors and survivors messy messy and sometimes as Jasmine Coti has stated the want to be helper becomes the wounding helper Systems all systems reflect this all as well. Let the Circle be broken perhaps ?

    And the the health issues of chronic conditions and acute conditions. And brain lesions which can cause altered thinking and behavior but if not looked for never found except sometimes by accident. Then TBI and CVE and CVI. All to do with the brain and again more of us than not have had brain trauma small or large it seems when car accidents, falls, sports, military areas or industrial areas where sound, sight, body motion can also create hidden concerns. Working a jack hammer as a job for decades may create just unthought out or unknown issues. We don’t know what we don’t know.
    And with that last thought we don’t know much and we need to work together and always the powers that be that makes the support so much harder when a different framework can easily be put into place.
    Thanks and I appreciate all your exploring. So many folks don’t explore at all or are stopped for many reasons.

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  3. When the first MIA article on ODESSI appeared, I wrote the following:

    “How long was this trial? Probably not as long as the original studies in Finland. The studies I’ve seen of Open Dialogue in Finland were for at least 5 years, and they showed that the tremendous recovery rate (about 85%) took a lot of patience. People had ups and downs, “relapses” around year 2, but by sticking with the “patient” – not panicking and hospitalizing them, not giving up on the OD model, not jumping to “medicate” – eventually the “patient” ended up living independently, working, seeking work or going to school.

    I wonder if this study’s finding that OD subjects’ reappearance of “symptoms” was comparable to the control group’s, but with fewer hospitalizations, would have worked out the same as the Finland studies, if the trial had lasted five years.”

    As I suspected at that writing, ODESSI observed “patients” for 2 years – not the OD trials’ 5 years. It is entirely possible that the extra three years could have produced results more in line with the OD trials.

    Moreover, ODESSI fell way short on a key aspect of the OD model, in being unable to engage family members in its meetings. I also suspect that the OD staff in Finland had more depth of training, a better feel for the OD method than the ODESSI staff did – no knock on ODESSI, since OD was developed in Finland.

    I fear the Mental Health Industry will focus on the fact that ODESSI didn’t totally knock the ball out of the park, using that as a pretext for sticking to the “treatment as usual” rut. The industry spent decades and billions fruitlessly trying to “tease out” the nuances of drugging people. But OD threatens the financial interests of Pharma and the insurance companies, let alone those of psychiatry; they won’t consider doing multiple trials to “tease out” how best to use OD. It will take enormous pressure to get them to follow up on ODESSI.

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  4. ACT needs an historical review and in the Midwest came on a bit later. Part of the push for case management services from NAMI. Each state has its own offices as in Vermont correct Sandra ? Then each county has a separate financial framework. County levy’s where sometimes no division between labels and sometimes walls around certain labels. Divide and conquer where different human needs and issues.
    Peer Specialists another universe. In my community mental health center we did have a short lived program of home visiting with a doc. This was before the era of 911 and that too plays a role in all of this.

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  5. The Finns have some very different attitudes when it comes to their community. Spend some time with them and this becomes apparent.

    Take their system of speeding fines for example. Their police are respected and rate highly on the ‘professional’ scale, whereas in Australia they barely rise above the respect of a used car salesman. I couldn’t begin to imagine a traffic stop turning into an execution by police the way they do in the US. And if you do receive a speeding fine, it is weighted according to your income, so that it does not mean that wealthy people do not see fines as being simply something they buy their way out of……. the economic ‘pain’ is equal for all. Homelessness is something the whole community feels ashamed of, and the motivation to do something is there. Unlike where I live where they move in and brutalise the people, destroy their meagre belongings, and provide nowhere for them to go.

    I guess these ’embedded’ values are something that may be difficult to actually measure.

    The idea of a Community Nurse lying to police to ‘stooge’ them into a ‘swatting’ and kidnapping for mental health services, and a cover up would offend the people in Finland. In Australia, they encourage such corruption by covering up and “editing” documented legal narratives. The exact opposite of the values espoused by OD.

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