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11 COMMENTS

  1. Very few understand that the psychiatric drugs affect the brain like the drug alcohol affects the brain to think/work.
    Only God knows how responsible she was for her actions. With alcohol they do have a known limit of 0.05 grams (50 milligrams) of alcohol in every 100 millilitres of blood.

    The pharmaceutical company drugs can only do “good” things to a persons brain according to the brainwashed public, and there is no one making billions in profits to be able to publish contrary information about the drugs.

  2. It seems like from the news articles that setting precedents was much more important to this court then the actual case.

    Here is the CNN Version http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/health/text-message-suicide-trial/ and that has links to some of the text exchanges.

    Carter: “But the mental hospital would help you. I know you don’t think it would but I’m telling you, if you give them a chance, they can save your life”
    Carter: “Part of me wants you to try something and fail just so you can go get help”

    It really seems like this guy was holding her hostage with that I am going to kill myself stuff but at the same time I know that some BPD self harm chicks seem to screw with guys heads like it is a sport for their own entertainment.

    “A Ridiculous Dose Of Antidepressants Made Me Emotionally Numb…

    I’m a big f*cking feeler. Always have been. My therapist calls me “highly sensitive.” My mother calls me “oversensitive.” My exes call me a “drama queen.” …

    I can’t even watch the news for five minutes without feeling like I’m losing my mind. The negative, harrowing images of our war-torn world, the slew of abused shelter animals staring at you with their massive pressing puppy dog eyes and the graphic stories of police brutality just feel like too much to handle. The disturbing visuals get burned into my brain, and I fixate for weeks, sometimes months, at a time…

    I used to hate feeling so much. Life is so f*cking hard when you’re a walking open wound that lets in every tiny speck of dust. So about four years ago, I decided I was going to seek relief from my feelings…

    Six to eight weeks later, I found myself with this unfamiliar ability to watch movies without shedding a single tear. http://elitedaily.com/life/emotionally-numb/1337606/

    Or get suicidal text messages and not shed a tear ?

    I know how some “drama queen” cutter chicks can act but I agree with Dr. Breggin she was emotionally blanked out by the drugs and that lead to the outcome, if she had the full range of her natural emotions this would have been different.

    • Wow, those reactions, especially the movie comment, really do sound like antidepressant-induced numbness. She is being portrayed very unsympathetically by the media, but it sounds like she has been a multi-generational victim of both child and pharmaceutical abuse.

    • Please, do “drama queen cutter chicks” a favour and find an alternate way to discuss these traumatised people.

      First, using the word “cutter” or “cutting” is activating to those who want to do it. Just reading the word is enough to set a self-injurer into a tailspin.

      Second, I understand that some people do experience extreme states and exhibit borderline strategies for getting what they need. In my experience I’ve found that it is generally BECAUSE THAT’S HOW THEY GOT THEIR NEEDS MET in a situation that was traumatic, or far less than optimal.

      Yes, I agree with you the_cat, (and Breggin) it sounds like medication spellbinding/anosognosia. But I have a feeling this woman is going to wake up at some point in her life, and the weight of what has happened will be punishment enough.

      Here is an interesting phenomenon of self injury – everyone I have experienced this with – goes completely numb just before it happens. How much easier would it be for that to happen – if you were on emotionally numbing drugs?

      When are we going to pay attention and be kind to each other? This is about cyber-bullying as much as it is about drugs. In our society it’s considered fashionable to shoot from the hip in a quick, cruel text and laugh about it with your friends. This is starting to have consequences. This may be a landmark case, but it’s not the first time it’s happened. The last time I saw something like this in the news, it was done by a mob – and was not prosecutable.

      I’m mixed about the verdict. I would like to see some measures to make it less popular to be so cruel to each other in faceless texts. I agree with Breggin and most people here – the drugs – always the drugs. Look at the drugs first. I expect that – someday if she ever gets off the drugs – she will be punished enough for what she has done (if she can ever recognise her culpability).

      Until then, serving time will do. Keep in mind, the police and courts exist to put people into the profit making prison industrial complex. Mind your manners.

      And how can we better learn to be kind to each other?

  3. Be careful what you say. In the future, if you say “drop dead” to someone, and they do so, you could be charged with manslaughter.

    I think the judge made a bad decision here. My feeling is that this girl is a lot less guilty than physicians who would assist people with emotional difficulties at “suicide”. As you will notice, the “suicide” here is in between quotation marks.

    I was wondering whether the victim might not have been on psych-drugs himself. Suicidality will get you there, and in this kid’s case, it didn’t seem like it wasn’t common knowledge. From there, you just go to the black box warning labels.

  4. Googling in SSRI Side Effects can produce pages of SSRI disaster stories. But theres a taboo within medicine around admitting to any of this. The drugs can definitely drive a person mad but getting any kind of suitable help can be a frightening lottery.

  5. Unfortunately it is the judicial system that needs to be reformed more than the health care system. It would be interesting to see what our mental health care would be like if all politicians at the state and federal level (representatives, senators, governors, judges) were required to participate in a psychiatric drug clinical trial for each term they are elected.