Today there is a substantial body of evidence that antidepressants worsen the long-term course of depression, a conclusion that deserves to be known by a global population and derives, in large part, from papers published in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics. It was in 1994 that the editor-in-chief of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics, Giovanni Fava, raised this concern, and for the next thirty years his journal provided a home for research and essays that collectively provided a sobering narrative about the clinical realities of long-term antidepressant use: the risk of developing chronic depression, difficulties withdrawing from the drugs, and persistent sexual dysfunction.
This was the clinical reality that Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics made known, a reality that was missing from mainstream psychiatric journals. Under Fava’s leadership, the journal also published articles related to long-term hazards with antipsychotics (such as drug-induced dopamine supersensitivity), the corruption of psychiatric practices by guild and pharmaceutical influences, and how meta-analyses of industry-funded trials, which are the foundation for the claim that antidepressants and other psychiatric drugs are effective, can lead to harmful clinical practices.
As Fava wrote in a 2022 editorial, when he stepped down as editor-in-chief:
“I realized that pluralism of viewpoints, an essential component of scientific and clinical progress, was threatened by corporate interests that resulted in self-selected academic oligarchies (special interest groups). Members of special interest groups, by virtue of their financial power and close ties with other members of the group, have the task of systematically preventing the dissemination of data which may be in conflict with their interests. Such censorship became particularly strong in psychopharmacology. It was thus important that the journal, in a psychosomatic spirit, offered a free, but rigorously evaluated, channel for scientific communications.”
After stepping down, Fava remained involved in the journal as “honorary” editor. The journal continued to be in good hands, and thus one of the few journals that was receptive to research findings that belied the narrative of therapeutic progress that the psychiatric guild and pharmaceutical companies have been promoting for decades.
However, in December, Karger, which is the Swiss-based company that publishes Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics, fired one of the two editors-in-chief, Jenny Guidi, informing her that it was “it was time for the journal to take a new direction.” That, in turn, led to a mass resignation at the journal: Fava is gone, so too Guidi’s co-editor in chief, Fiametta Cosci, most of the editorial board, and the journal’s statistical consultants. The two editors-in-chief were replaced by a Karger employee, Sam Bose, who was named the “managing editor.”
In short, the editorial leadership that made Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics such an important journal for more than three decades is now gone, which has profound implications for the future of the “evidence base” for psychiatric treatments that will appear in the scientific literature. Researchers whose findings counter the conventional wisdom—and thus counter vested financial and guild interests—regularly find it difficult to place their articles with a psychiatric journal, and now that difficulty will only grow more pronounced if the new editors of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics take it in a “new direction.”
Indeed, the last issue that was edited while Guidi and Cosci were at the helm featured an article written by Mark Horowitz and James Davies, whose writings have often been featured on Mad in America. Their article was titled “Hidden Costs: The Clinical and Research Pitfalls of Mistaking Antidepressant Withdrawal for Relapse.” If Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics takes a new direction, this is the type of article that may not be able to find its way into the medical literature, or at least not into a journal with a high “impact factor.”
“Under previous editors, Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics became one of the world’s most respected mental health journals, known for its incisive, world-leading critical research that pushed boundaries and improved practice,” Davies said. “Karger’s decision to replace the editorial leadership without consultation is extraordinary, abruptly ending decades of success and accumulated expertise. This is a profound loss for both the research community and the public. Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics has long remained independent of the financial and ideological biases that pervade psychiatric research, creating an ethical space where scientific integrity—not external interests—determines what gets published. Its loss is a loss for us all.”
A Journal of Transformative Importance
This is a loss that will be felt deeply at Mad in America. Our science team has regularly reported on articles that have been published in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics. Indeed, a search of Mad in America turns up 102 references to this journal. Fava’s work and his journal were also a critical source for my book Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness.
In Anatomy of an Epidemic, I was focused on this question: How do psychiatric drugs impact the long-term outcomes of major psychiatric disorders? Does their long-term use promote lasting recovery and thus provide a long-term benefit, or do they, for some reason, worsen the long-term course of major disorders?
At that time, the conventional narrative—at least as told to the public—was that researchers had discovered that major psychiatric disorders were caused by chemical imbalances in the brain, and that psychiatric drugs fixed those chemical imbalances in the brain, like insulin for diabetes. This was a narrative that told of a great medical advance, and it had fueled a great expansion in the diagnosis of mental disorders and the prescribing of psychiatric drugs, both in the United States and abroad.
However, I knew from my research for my first book, Mad in America, which was published in 2002, that the chemical imbalance story, while being actively told to the public, was belied by the science. Moreover, in that book, I had investigated the long-term merits of antipsychotics, and I had dug up a line of research in the scientific literature, dating back to the 1950s, that told of how antipsychotics worsened the long-term course of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders. These drugs lowered long-term recovery rates, and increased the likelihood that a person would remain chronically ill.
That, in fact, was a story of science that could be fleshed out by following NIMH-funded research, starting with the introduction of antipsychotics into asylum medicine in 1955 and continuing until the present day. American psychiatry, of course, was telling itself and the public a different narrative about these drugs, but the NIMH studies provided pieces of evidence that fit together like a puzzle, telling of that bottom-line impact of antipsychotics.
As I turned my attention to the long-term impact of antidepressants while researching Anatomy of An Epidemic, I knew that the low-serotonin hypothesis hadn’t panned out. I also knew that the short-term efficacy of antidepressants, an evidence base that came from industry-funded trials, was of a dubious sort, the drug-placebo difference so small that it was clinically irrelevant. However, my focus was on their long-term effects, and so I began my inquiry in the same way I had with the antipsychotics: what were outcomes for depressed patients prior to the arrival of antidepressants?
Studies of patients hospitalized for depression in the first half of the 20th century, both in the U.S. and Europe, told of a spectrum of outcomes, which led to the conclusion that depression, for the most part, was an episodic disorder. Recovery rates at the end of one year would be around 85%, and studies that followed first-episode cohorts for a longer period of time reported that about 50% of the patients would have but a single episode, another 30% might have an episode every three or four years, and only about 20% would suffer from episodes more frequently than that.
This led experts in mood in disorders in the U.S., including leaders at the NIMH, to report in the 1960s and 1970s that depression was an episodic disorder, and that most people would recover regardless of any treatment. Most depressive episodes, explained Dean Schuyler, head of the depression section at the NIMH, “will run their course and terminate with virtually complete recovery without specific intervention.”
However, in the 1970s and 1980s, studies in the U.S. and abroad began to tell of how patients treated with antidepressants were frequently relapsing when they stopped taking these drugs. However, rather than see this relapse as possibly related to antidepressant use, leading academic psychiatrists in the U.S. saw it as reason to reconsider the “natural” course of depression. Perhaps their previous understanding that it was an episodic disorder was mistaken.
A 1985 panel of experts convened by the NIMH put it this way: “Improved approaches to the description and classification of [mood] disorders and new epidemiological studies [have] demonstrated the recurrent and chronic nature of these illnesses, and the extent to which they represent a continual source of distress and dysfunction for affected individuals.”
An NIMH study conducted at this time, which compared the antidepressant imipramine to two forms of psychotherapy and placebo, told of this poor outcome. At the end of 18 months, the stay-well rate for the imipramine was only 19%, which was far worse than outcomes for depressed patients in the pre-antidepressant era.
Enter Giovanni Fava into this narrative.

An Italian psychiatrist from Bologna, Fava became editor-in-chief of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics in 1992. He had years of clinical experience working in an “affective disorders program” that involved treating patients “who were referred to us for difficulties in their management.” With his clinical experience uppermost in his mind, he wrote an editorial in 1994 arguing that it was time to consider whether antidepressants were increasing the chronicity of the long-term course of depression.
“Within the field of psychopharmacology, practitioners have been cautious, if not fearful, of opening a debate on whether the treatment is more damaging [than helpful],” he wrote. “I wonder if the time has come for debating and initiating research into the likelihood that psychotropic drugs actually worsen, at least in some cases, the progression of the illness which they are supposed to treat.”
He noted too the reluctance of the field to consider this possibility. “It is indeed rare to see such issues debated: is this because of some ‘censorship’ operated by medical journals, meeting organizers, and certain pharmaceutical manufacturers?”
Fava was now like the little boy who whispered that the king has no clothes.
Indeed, his editorial drew an immediate rebuke from Donald Klein, a prominent psychiatrist at Columbia University known for his work on pharmacological treatments for mood disorders. Klein, writing in Psychiatric News, urged that this discussion be shut down. “The industry is not interested [in this question], the NIMH is not interested, and the FDA is not interested,” he wrote. “Nobody is interested.”
Still, Fava persisted. Ross Baldessarini, one of the most prominent figures in American psychiatry, known in particular for his psychopharmacology research, wrote in 1995 that this question required “open-minded and serious clinical and research consideration,” and and in the years that followed, Fava fleshed out his argument. He cited several clinicians who earlier had told of how antidepressants were causing a “chronification” of the disease. He also pointed to a five-year study by a Dutch physician in the 1970s who found that exposure to antidepressants had increased the frequency of episodes. As for why antidepressants might have this long-term effect, Fava turned to research conducted by two Canadian investigators, Guy Chouinard and Barry Jones, who had concluded in the 1980s that antipsychotics induced a dopamine supersensitivity that made patients more biologically vulnerable to psychosis, and that long-term use of these drugs could lead to persistent, severe psychosis in a significant percentage of patients.
Like antipsychotics, Fava noted, antidepressants perturbed neurotransmitter systems in the brain, which led to compensatory “processes that oppose the initial acute effects of the drugs . . . when drug treatment ends, these processes may operate unopposed, resulting in appearance of withdrawal symptoms and increased vulnerability to relapse.” The longer one stayed on antidepressants, he wrote, the “higher the likelihood of relapse” following drug withdrawal. Yet, even those who stayed on antidepressants were relapsing with great frequency, which led Fava to suggest that the drugs could cause “irreversible modifications” and “sensitize” the brain to depression.
In papers published in 1995 and 1999, Fava summed up the problem in this way: “Antidepressant drugs in depression might be beneficial in the short term, but worsen the progression of the disease in the long term, by increasing the biochemical vulnerability to depression . . . Use of antidepressant drugs may propel the illness to a more malignant and treatment unresponsive course.”
With Fava repeatedly beating the drum, he kept the issue alive in psychiatric research circles. In 1998, three physicians from the University of Louisville School of Medicine, in a letter to the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, wrote that “it is possible that antidepressant agents modify the hardwiring of neuronal synapses [which] not only render antidepressants ineffective but also induce a resident, refractory depressive state.” Baldessarini also weighed in again, publishing an article in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics, urging the field to investigate this possibility.
In 2011, Fava’s effort came to a notable conclusion. He published yet another article telling of how antidepressants “may propel the illness to a malignant and treatment-unresponsive course,” and then, that same year, a U.S. expert in mood disorders, Rif El-Mallakh, who had written an article in 1999 that supported Fava’s concerns, published a paper titled: “Tardive Dysphoria: The Role of Long-term Antidepressant Use in Inducing Chronic Depression.”
“A chronic and treatment-resistant depressive state is proposed to occur in individuals who are exposed to potent antagonists of serotonin reuptake pumps (SSRIs) for prolonged periods. Due to the delay in the onset of this chronic depressive state, it is labeled tardive dysphoria. Tardive dysphoria manifests as a chronic dysphoric states that is initially transiently relieved by—but ultimately becomes unresponsive to—antidepressant medication. Serotonergic antidepressants may be of particular importance in the development of tardive dysphoria.”
Moreover, El-Mallakh picked up on a larger theme that Fava had been harping on for decades: this drug-induced worsening might be common to other classes of psychiatric drugs, as all such drugs induced this “oppositional tolerance.”
El-Mallakh wrote: “Continued drug treatment may induce processes that are the opposite of what the medication originally produced.” This may “cause a worsening of the illness, continue for a period of time after discontinuation of the medication, and may not be reversible.”
At that moment, the narrative that had been promoted to the public, of antidepressants and other psychiatric drugs fixing chemical imbalances in the brain, had been completely flipped. Fava had told of psychiatric drugs that induced abnormalities in brain chemistry and worsened long-term outcomes, at least in the case of antidepressants, with a U.S. expert in mood disorders naming this effect drug-induced “tardive dysphoria.”
Today, there are a number of studies that can be cited that confirm that antidepressants have this negative long-term effect. While such studies have been published in various journals, several of the most important were published in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics. To wit:
- In 2005, researchers in the Netherlands who followed 172 patients for two years after their depression had gone into remission reported that the relapse rate was 60% for those who stayed on antidepressants versus 26% for those who didn’t take an antidepressant. The high relapse rate for the patients who took antidepressants, the investigators concluded, was consistent with the idea that “continued antidepressant treatment may oppose the initial acute effects of [the] antidepressant . . . neurobiological mechanism(s) may be involved in increasing vulnerability to relapse.”
- In 2010, Ed Pigott and colleagues published their first review of the STAR*D findings, telling of how, at the end of the one year, only 108 of the 4041 patients who had entered the study had remitted during the acute phase of the study and then stayed well and in the trial to its one-year end. This was a documented stay-well rate of 3%. All of the others who had entered the trial had either never remitted, remitted and then relapsed, or had dropped out. This long-term outcome stood in dramatic contrast to outcomes in the pre-antidepressant era, when 85% recovery rates were reported, and also in dramatic contrast to a NIMH study of “unmedicated depression” in the early 2000s that similarly reported an 85% recovery rate at the end of one year.
- In 2017, a study of 3,294 people who were diagnosed with depression and followed for nine years revealed that those who took antidepressants had more severe symptoms at the end of nine years than those who didn’t take such medication. The difference in outcomes could not be explained by any difference in initial severity of depression.
- In 2018, a study of 521 depressed patients in Switzerland, who were followed from when they were 20 years old until they were 50 years old, found that taking an antidepressant at some point during that period was associated with worse outcomes at the end of the study, even when controlling for initial symptoms and other factors.
In addition to articles telling of antidepressants’ long-term effects, under Fava’s leadership Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics regularly published articles related to antidepressant withdrawal symptoms and conflicts of interest in psychiatry and medicine. In 2002, the journal published an analysis of the risk of suicide with SSRIs that contributed to the FDA’s decision to place a Black Box warning on these drugs. In 2006, it published perhaps the first report of patients suffering from post-SSRI-sexual-dysfunction (PSSD.) In 2015 it published the first systematic review of the literature on antidepressant withdrawal symptoms, telling of how the symptoms could be severe and did not necessarily wane after a few weeks.
In sum, the record that exists in the scientific literature telling of the long-term impact of antidepressants would be notably different today if it had not been for Fava’s writings and the many articles published in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics. This was a journal that provided a counter-narrative to the narrative in mainstream psychiatric journals that told of the effectiveness of antidepressants and other psychiatric drugs, and rarely focused on their harms, including their long-term effects.
Fava Looks Back: The Rise and Fall of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics
When Fava took over the editorial helm of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics in 1992, he wanted it to be a journal that would be relevant to clinical practice, with articles often arising from clinical observations. This focus stood in contrast to an evidence base that arises from RCTs that compare symptom reduction in treated patients to a placebo group.
“Something that I realized very soon is that in the 1990s, the number of investigators who had familiarity with the clinical process was limited,” Fava said. “You can find people who publish about clinical methods, who give lectures, who teach, but these people wouldn’t know how to treat a patient in practice . . . I always had a busy clinical practice so I could see what was going on in the real world. All the research aspects that I’ve been dealing with in my career as an investigator, the source came from clinical practice. The ideas and hypotheses were rooted in my clinical practice. If you don’t have that, you end up doing studies that may be elegant and may be rigorous, but they really have no relevance to what the clinicians do.”
The editorial Fava wrote in 1994, questioning whether antidepressants could worsen the long-term course of depression, arose from what he had observed in his patients. “I observed a number of phenomena which were intriguing. Withdrawal syndromes were part of this phenomena, but there were also other clinical aspects, such as loss of clinical effect and so on. So I decided to write an editorial where I didn’t have any firm conclusion, but I was raising doubts about certain issues.”
In most journals, Fava noted, raising such issues was “forbidden.” But the publisher of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics at that time, Thomas Karger, gave him a free hand in running the journal. “What was present in those days was something that is one of the most important ingredients of scientific research, and that is intellectual freedom, which many researchers do not have. They have lost it because of industry ties and so on,” Fava said.
Indeed, after Fava published a paper in 2006 by Sheldon Krimsky and Lisa Cosgrove, which told of the financial ties that the DSM-IV panel members had to pharmaceutical companies, Karger—after seeing the Washington Post report on the Krimsky article—wrote a simple note to his editor-in-chief: “I’m proud to be your publisher.”
With Thomas Karger his publisher, Fava had support for continuing his investigations on the long-term impact of antidepressants. Articles published in Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics told of withdrawal symptoms and how they could persist even after patients stopped taking the drugs, of suicide risks with the drugs, and how in longer-term studies, the drugs lost their “clinical effect” in a significant percentage of patients. Guy Chouinard was a member of his editorial board, and so Fava had his knowledge and experience to count on when he proposed that antidepressants could induce an “oppositional tolerance” that caused long-term worsening.
“Over the years, we collected a number of clinical investigators who were very independent and who had ideas that were important but didn’t find room in mainstream journals. We continued to do that until we reached an impact factor that was above the American Journal of Psychiatry,” Fava said. “That was really a paradox because the American Journal of Psychiatry is extremely powerful in terms of investments and so on. And we were this small group of people doing that.”
Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics also ran articles that raised questions about the merits of psychotherapy. The spirit of independent thought, and freedom to publish findings and clinical observations that could upset conventional beliefs, remained present throughout Fava’s three decades as editor-in-chief.
In terms of its pharmacology reports, the journal presented findings that stood in direct contrast to the “evidence base” that arose from RCTs, conducted mostly by industry in its short-term trials, and meta-analyses of RCTs. While such meta-analyses are regularly cited by leaders in psychiatry as proof that their treatments are “evidence-based” and effective, Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics, with its evidence rooted in clinical observations and research on clinical phenomena, published essays that argued meta-analyses were not a source of good clinical practice.
“Randomized controlled trials are a very important part of clinical science, but we should not forget that the results of randomized controlled trials apply to the average patient and they may not apply to all clinical cases,” Fava said.
Real-world patients, he added, may experience a spectrum of outcomes. For instance, there may be a positive change in one group, no change in a second group, and worsening in a third group.
“So what is the problem with meta-analyses?” Fava asked. “You just talk about the average. And particularly the third subgroup [that worsens], you don’t want to hear about it. In a way, evidence-based medicine has degraded clinical practice. What I mean is that with this idea, you have guidelines that apply to everyone, whereas it is the clinical judgement of the clinician who has to interpret those guidelines. But clinical judgement means independence, it means not following orders, not following guidelines.”
The demise of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics, Fava said, was rooted in the retirement of Thomas Karger. The new corporate publishers were much more focused on “money.”
Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics operated under a “subscription model,” its revenues coming from subscribers, rather than advertisements, Fava noted. Libraries were a principal source of subscription revenues, but several decades ago libraries started to resist paying this expense. As a result, many publishers began turning to an “open access” model. However, this is a model that in many ways is antithetical to independent science and research arising from clinical experience, particularly since independent-minded investigators may lack grants that can pay “open access” costs.
“It creates a financial threshold for reporting certain things. It’s like if we go to a restaurant, we bring our own food, we go to the kitchen, we cook the food, we bring it to our table, we eat it, and we pay the bill. That’s open access,” Fava said.
Fava stepped down in 2022, after some “frictions” developed with the new corporate publishers. Two associate editors at the journal, Jenny Guidi and Fiametta Cosci, took over, with Fava remaining involved as an “honorary editor” to provide advice and help resolve controversial issues.
“But there was [now] a big difference, in that we no longer had a publisher who was proud of what we were doing,” Fava said. “We had a publisher who was concerned about other matters and didn’t care about the impact factor [our journal had]. In general, publishers now want to have a say in the editorial line of a journal.”
The publishers of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics want to move to an open access model, he said. There were “problems” that arose between the publisher and the two chief editors, and in December Guidi was fired and Cosci resigned. The current managing editor, Sam Bose, is a company employee who has a background in “open access” publishing.
“He has no competence in the field,” Fava said. “And what they are looking for is someone who will follow directions.”
While Bose and a new editorial board have yet to put their stamp on the journal, Fava doesn’t think it will continue to be a home for research that challenges conventional wisdom.
“I’m sorry to end this conversation in a pessimistic way, but I think that the golden years of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics are gone. Something that has been very impressive to me is that there were hundreds of protests for what went on (the firing of the editor and resignations of the editorial board.) But right now, I tend to believe that the experience of Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics is over. I don’t even see any replacement, and I think it’s really a major loss.”
It is, Fava concluded, a story of the “progressive loss of intellectual freedom.”
***
Editor’s note: On March 26, MIA Radio will air a podcast interview with Giovanni Fava.
***
MIA Reports are supported by a grant from Open Excellence, and by donations from MIA readers. To donate, visit: https://www.madinamerica.com/donate/
In general, the monied “powers that shouldn’t be” lost control of the narrative, with the onset of the internet. So they are now trying to take back their undeserved, under researched, and/or fraud based researched, power.
RIP, Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics. But an end to the supposed open dialogue on the realities of the psych industries, does also represent an end to any kind of true science within the psych industries. Especially given the fact that having an open dialogue is largely a necessity, upon which any real science is based.
Report comment
Can we organize a boycott?
Are they not able to get help organizing a replacement? Can someone set up a gofundme campaign or similar?
Report comment
Thank you, Robert, for keeping us informed about this and for the informative blog post.
When I went through the text I realised that it must have been the work of this paper that I had the chance to read a book by a German pharmacolgist and researcher, Felix Hasler, called “Neuromythologie” that was published around 2010. In it a whole chapter is devoted to the problems with anti-depressants. I now realise that Mr. Hasler who wasn’t an anti-depressants researcher himself must simply have given an overview of the work that was led by Mr. Fava and other people at Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics.
It was very important for me because at that time I was off an anti-depressant medication since more than five years. But I was still struggling.
I had intuitively decided to taper myself off an anti-depressant after five years in the beginning of my twenties because I understood that they didn’t have a therapeutic effect. But that therapy had to come from another place. Because of misdiagnosis and because of the inherent problems of psychotherapy I experienced psychotherapy as not helpful or better harmful too.
I decided to add an hour of yoga a week with every half of a pill that I was going down. After two years I was off the drug and a committed yogini and felt that I was finally on the track of recovery.
Because my real problem was my violent mother and my dysfunctional family – what I didn’t understand at the time – I continued to have depressive episodes. But with the help of that book I had the means to argue against becoming a user of psych drugs ever again.
And with time and more hours of mindfulness meditation I realised in the end that I had never been the problem but that my mother and the rest of my family represented it with their abusive behaviours towards me. So I cut myself off. And haven’t had a depressive episode ever since.
Report comment
Sad? Yes. Disaster? No.
Why? Because the dissemination of useful information has evolved into a fluid and interactive ecosystem, seamlessly merging with the internet to move beyond the limitations of static and isolated RTC’s and antiquated psychiatric journals.
Real world examples include Dr. Josef’s vast collection of interview videos and shorts that do a phenomenal job ushering in a new form of “evidence base” that are quickly leaving psychiatry’s outmoded journals and industry-funded “research” trials in the dust.
So, it’s clear the time has come for researchers and clinicians alike to finally face the fact that RTC’s were never of much use—except as a way to engage in a very expensive and time-consuming form of confirmation bias, consequently used to simultaneously enhance one’s professional credentials and earnings.
Report comment
“Something that I realized very soon is that in the 1990’s, the number of investigators who had familiarity with the clinical process was limited,” Fava said. “You can find people who publish about clinical methods, who give lectures, who teach, but these people wouldn’t know how to treat a patient in practice . . . I always had a busy clinical practice so I could see what was going on in the real world. All the research aspects that I’ve been dealing with in my career as an investigator, the source came from clinical practice. The ideas and hypotheses were rooted in my clinical practice. If you don’t have that, you end up doing studies that may be elegant and may be rigorous, but they really have no relevance to what the clinicians do.”
Still in doubt? Then check this out: “@bsiem was failed by psychiatry—Now She’s Exposing the Truth”, from Dr. Josef’s collection of video shorts on Youtube
Report comment
…newly titled: “Antidepressants Stole Her Life: Brooke Siem’s Story”
Report comment
Wonderful clarity you’re expressing here because those concerned to discover the actual truth like you and me whose concern was never merely intellectual or professional but passionate and urgent, will make the best possible use of internet and other resources because we need to understand – our lives depend on it, while academic computer brained socially conditioned piggy treat munching academics and robots will have brains that cry ‘malfunction, malfunction’ when any evidence appears to their eyes or ears contradicting their social conditioning which is by the dominant narratives of this diseased society that produced Donald Trump and Elon Musk to manage their lives and their children and the Earth and humanities future. And this insane society diagnosis you and me as mad. Well – you place your votes on who is mad. Me and Birdsong know that at the end of the day nothing will live longer then the truth so we’ll hold tight and maybe smoke a cigarette or drink a brandy in order to endure the horror of your computer brained bleeps and glitches which are socially misconstrued as ‘expertise’. We’re the experts you inside out jelly brained mushrooms. You have to be an expert when your heart and mind are tearing each other apart. When you’re doing it for piggy treats the urgency and energy is just not there, unless you’re an enormously greedy pig.
Report comment
Thank you, No-one.
It’s really wonderful that people finally have other ways of finding pertinent information untainted by special interests more interested in protecting their turf than finding the truth 🙂
Report comment
I hope your are right.
Report comment
I wouldn’t worry too much. The cat’s out of the bag and it’s ready to ready to me-howl.
Report comment
You can never say what you are Robert, because neither saying nor the thing said is what you are, and anything that says what you are is not what you are but a happening in you. There is the body/Earth, the mind/sky, and the life/spirit of the great Mother. You are a circumstance, not a person, and that circumstance is like the Earth, full of sky and light and night.
Report comment
The problem is that the social and political systems have lost the capacity, the energy and the will to respond to the important findings you have outlined in your work and that science continuously throws up, as is the case not just with psychiatry but also climate change, the true science of dietary factors and diabetes showing how natural dietary adjustments (such as ketogenic diet or intermittent fasting without any calorie restriction) invariably cures type 2 diabetes and is actually money saving in some cases, yet medicine continues to recommend increasing doses of type 2 medication ultimately insulin which makes the problem progressive and enormously expensive and potentially catastrophic to health and economic security particularly in America. There are legions of passionate people outlining all the science of this and the frauds and lies in medical history that lead to delusional and destructive approaches to dietary advice and treatment etc and yet all systems and governments are impervious in exactly the same way as they are to the truths that indict psychiatry, yet it seems in the case of diet and diabetes a win win situation to resolve this problem. How much harder and more impossible would it be to reform psychiatry, which could only be done really in the interests of psychiatrist, to prevent their total redundancy.
It would seem much easier to solve this latter problem of diabetes treatment with proper public education and lobbying of politicians because healthcare is an economic and political cost then it would be to revolutionize ‘mental health treatment’ to make it accord to the truth which it couldn’t do without entirely abolishing itself anyway in favour of REAL HUMAN CARE OF PEOPLE BY PEOPLE. What psychiatrist or psychologist or any employed specialist will ever be able to do that? Only if they become real human beings which implies stepping out of specialization entirely.
The value and importance of this field of criticism of psychiatry is in exposing the truth in order to convict and condemn the false, but one cannot expect the false to behave honourably in relation to the truth and all trajectories in our society prove the fallacy of this fundamental hope that most people have in the eventual self-correcting of dysfunction which has not happened in any field other then the invasion and colonization and destruction of all our lives for decades – longer, but before the 80s such invasion went hand in hand with forms of progressive liberation from old structures. Now all social structures entrap us and enslave us to hopeless goals – and that is for every human being on Earth, not just critics of psychiatry or society. But those who are critical of psychiatry can easily extend their insight to a proper critical examination of the structural roots of psychiatry AND what we call ‘mental illness’ and addiction and criminality and that is the society and the social conditioning that produced all this modern phenomena out of the raw material of a well-functioning and healthy nature. Your critique i quite correct but you haven’t grasped that which opposes the truth in people, that force who well meaning people like yourself and myself are always the last to uncover and understand, to our cost, because on this basis of relying on the good will of people we erect towers of false hope and false life goals based on that hope, and this is a crisis in all of our lives, not just in critics of psychiatry. So please be brave and step into the sunlight of total dispassionate observation and understanding of the whole of society with the same critical vigour and passion you have applied to the problem of psychiatry. And then you will have a wide and broad creative journey, and then you will not be frustrated wrestling with dishonest people who at the end of the day could never admit and accept a truth which would condemn their lives and threaten everything they have. And even society at large would prefer not to confront any more disturbing truths right now. How can you have hope in the transformation of social consciousness at large through exposure of the truth in this era of a society that has swung into widespread denial of climate change and totally insane delusions and a wrath of punishment and hatred of immigrants and people deviating from white heterosexual normativity? It’s an impossible pill to swallow perhaps, but if you don’t swallow it you can never break through this limit to your vision and it is only by overstepping this limitation that you will have the energy and creativity to do something far beyond what you’ve done already. I don’t know what this would be, I don’t know if you’re capable of swallowing this pill, I don’t know if you would survive swallowing this pill, but I do know that if you did swallow this pill there would be radical possibility with all your energy and passion and your unyielding commitment to the truth.
PS, on a lighter note incredible things are being discovered at the moment in every field of human understanding – and one of the most shocking things I have read probably in my life was what has recently been discovered under the Giza pyramids through new radar technology – a vast underground structure that extends to a 2 km depth and includes 8 vast wells each surrounded by spiral staircases in geometric symmetry that extends to a depth twice that of the Eifel tower. The researchers only went public with it on the 15th and it has taken till the last 24 hours for it to hit the mainstream news: in terms of radical importance in human social self-knowledge and understanding there has surely never been any more important finding in archeological history because it explodes all previous hard-wired assumptions of academia and historians throughout history. You just have to look it up yourself by googling ‘giza pyramid discovery’ and then hitting the ‘news’ tab to see what an astonishing thing this is and my reaction, as well as that of others, is complete astonishment, physical shock, bewilderment, and an inability for the brain to grasp and believe what it is seeing. Let these truths explode and transform your brain: don’t shelter from them which can only mean sheltering in the structures of the past that is destroying itself everywhere today.
Report comment
The works on physical economy of Lyndon LaRouche are very important. Environmentalism is a pro-genocide Malthusian conspiracy to limit population. The truth is that the more people who are born, if they are given the resources necessary to enhance the creativity of their minds and the ability to effect scientific discoveries, which is the real meaning of freedom, then the more people we produce the greater is the likelihood that they will effect discoveries to avert disaster. Human beings are a resource, not a liability. I agree that we need to start treating human beings as such. However there are no limits to growth. Pretending otherwise is an excuse to deprive poor villagers in Africa of their only energy sources, that is the practical effect of most environmentalist propaganda. We need to export our modern technologies to eradicate poverty because economic development is the new name for peace.
President Lincoln knew that labor precedes capital and thus should be given priority over capital. He wanted every worker to have a home. And they don’t want us to know that he, too, was a Bolshevik. (Mao Zedong: Land to the Tillers.) He said that right makes might.
(This comment is like a flat line pointing at a rainbow instead of following the gradient.)
Signed, Salmon Man
Report comment
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pyramids-of-giza-new-discovery-structures/
This illustrates exactly why losing a publication like this is so dangerous and important. On one hand, the peer-review process, the academic journals, and the system built up around them, are all inherently somewhat elitist and involve problematic gatekeeping, even before they were so fully infiltrated and compromised by monied interests.
But the alternative of expecting every single ordinary person to research EVERYTHING independently on the internet, sifting through all the misinformation, deepfakes, hoaxes, propaganda, etc, makes it inevitable that the exact kinds of people who are open-minded enough to correctly take the ‘alternative’ viewpoint on psychiatry will also incorrectly take the ‘alternative’ viewpoint on stuff like this most recent Giza pyramid hoax. It’s not as simple as “every mainstream point of view is wrong, and every alternative point of view is right”.
So sources like this journal that take the incredible effort to walk that line, to still apply rigorous scientific methods and peer review while also resisting the pressures from various ‘guilds’, special interest groups, etc, and thus give real reliable trustworthy information to ordinary people without expecting us all to become part-time researchers, are incredibly valuable. This is a huge loss.
Report comment
Frightening. This latest development solidifies my belief that the mental health industry is getting worse, not better, especially in the USA.
Report comment
Exactly, and getting worse means not just getting more destructive, but also becoming less and less able to admit the truth because they are making it increasingly harder for themselves by living with one eye open toward the truth and the other eye in denial. Probably the good psychiatrists have mostly left the profession by now or turned into critical psychiatrists, because surely for most of the good truth-seeking psychiatrists the hypocrisy involved would make it untenable. Naturally the APA and the medical regulators get their money from phamarcuetical industry and academic pharmacological research institutions so who are we trying to convince here? Who is our audience? It is human beings that need to wake up to this now because psychiatry, psychopharmacology and medical regulators and governments will be the last to do so if they ever do. Only forcing them to wake up has any hope, which implies us waking up to the whole ugly truth not just of psychiatry but society at large.
Report comment
I think it’s time to stop being sitting ducks for other people’s career enhancement.
Report comment
Engagement is a healthy form of non-violent self-defense. Constructive criticism and self-criticism are powerful tools for growth. It only works if we don’t view each other as enemies, though. If we view each other as enemies then you’re probably better off hanging garlic over your bed and purchasing an iron crucifix.
Report comment
Never discount the value of discernment.
Report comment
Thanks for the good advice.
Report comment
Giovanni Fava said that people “are welcome to express their comments to the chairwoman and publisher Gabriella Karger ([email protected]) and to the CEO Daniel Ebneter ([email protected]).
Report comment
Thank you, Robert and Giovanni, for acting as conduits of mutually respectful communication opportunities between critical psychiatry / psychology people and/or psych survivors, and the publisher and CEO of a possibly no longer truth telling medical journal.
Report comment
Daniel Ebneter claims that the MIA article distorts facts, labelled it SPAM. I’ve asked him for a rebuttal.
Report comment
I did in no way label the article as SPAM, but replied to an email that landed in my spam folder.
Report comment
Edit: His email client labelled it as spam, it wasn’t him.
Report comment
Karger Publishers strongly disagrees with the views and opinions presented in this article that also contains a large number of factual errors and misrepresentations. We deplore that madamerica.com hasn’t contacted us to gather our perspective and verify facts as good journalism commands.
We recommend reading https://retractionwatch.com/2025/02/03/mass-resignations-hit-psychotherapy-journal-after-publisher-replaced-editors/ for a more balanced view.
Report comment
Thank you.
Report comment
“In a way, evidence-base medicine has degraded clinical practice. What I mean is that with this idea, you have guidelines that apply to everyone, whereas it is the clinical judgment of the clinician who has to interpret those guidelines. But clinical judgment means independence, it means not following orders, not following guidelines.”
Report comment