Antidepressants and the National Suicide Epidemic

Cheap drugs that don’t work and the national suicide epidemic, as a result of unwillingness to communicate with evil psychiatrists.

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Thank you very much for this Article, the message really needs to be driven home.

“….I have listened to people who began taking psychiatric drugs, often for the most banal reasons you could imagine …”: – everybody knows somebody who had very little wrong with them (originally), that have now become a long term Mental Health Patient on Disability Benefit.

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The author was absolutely correct in his prediction that there would be new calls for more and better “treatment” for people suffering from depression after the death of the young woman from the Kennedy family. I was watching coverage about her death on the PBS Newshour and sure enough, they were saying how important it is for more people to get the help that they needed for their terrible depression. And of course by “help” they mean drugs.

Depression is not an illness but an awareness that something in one’s life needs changing. Is the experience a lot of fun? Absolutely not, but one can get through it. What psychiatry has done is to take something that was episodic and self-limiting and have turned it into a chronic problem with their wonderful “antidepressants”, which often cause the thing they’re supposed to treat, as well as often making one suicidal. It’s disgusting.

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I would say that anyone who is caught in any of the tentacles of the mental health system, is at n increased risk of suicide.

They are having their experiences of in justice turned into a medical problem, and into a self-improvement project.

And this applies just as well to the no diagnosis, no labels, school of psychotherapy and recovery, because the victim there is still being invited to talk themselves out, but they are not shown any path of restoring their social and civil standing. So it will be a life without honor, barely worth calling life, which awaits them.

I point out Matthew Warren, youngest son of Saddle Back Church founders Rick and Kay Warren. Rick said that he had had the best Psychiatrists, best Psychotherapists, and best Prayer Warriors in the entire world. As I see it, very few could have survived that.

And then Kay was all upset saying that a Psychiatrist abandoned Matthew in the hospital. Seems like that was probably the best thing which could have happened to him, other than his mother also abandoning him.

I say that that suicide should be investigated as a suspected 1st Degree Murder.

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It’s easy as pie to understand, once you realize health care means the financial health of providers and manufacturers, particularly those of pharmaceuticals- not the physical health of the citizenry.

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“… Instead of taking them off the drugs, their doctors responded with new diagnoses, more drugs, stronger drugs, and higher doses, until someone who started out with nothing more than the everyday problems of living ended up with a crippling disability.”

Distress caused by 9/11/2001 is a “lifelong, incurable, genetic mental illness,” caused by a “chemical imbalance” in my brain alone, according to today’s, child rape covering up, “mental health” workers.

It’s all about the doctors destroying the lives of the young, healthy, and well insured people of America, for profit.

If you can imagine, I recently asked a pediatrician if she was aware of the antidepressant and ADHD drug induced childhood bipolar epidemic, she conceded she was. I pointed out that some of the treatments for bipolar, specifically the antipsychotics/neuroleptics, can create the negative symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome. And the antipsychotics can create the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” via antipsychotic induced anticholinergic toxidrome. She agreed, she was aware of this. I pointed out that the head of the National Institute of Mental Health had conceded to the scientific “invalidity” of all the DSM disorders in 2013. She admitted she was aware of this.

So I asked her if she could speak with her fellow pediatricians, and they could stop DSM defaming and drugging the children. This encounter occurred in a church. She said “No … it’s just too profitable.” “For the love of money ….”

Psychiatry’s iatrogenic illness creation system needs to be put to an end. But our doctors and religious institutions, whose hospitals profit from it, go to great lengths to try to maintain their satanic, primarily child abuse covering up, “mental health” system.

https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2019/01/23/18820633.php?fbclid=IwAR2-cgZPcEvbz7yFqMuUwneIuaqGleGiOzackY4N2sPeVXolwmEga5iKxdo

https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/04/heal-for-life/

And, unfortunately, since pedophiles apparently are in charge of the American “empire,” despite the fact I’m unaware of any American ever voting for America to be an “empire.”

https://www.amazon.com/Pedophilia-Empire-Chapter-Introduction-Disorder-ebook/dp/B0773QHGPT

Our government officials, who should be in charge of preventing such a scientific fraud based, primarily child abuse covering up system, and ending it, don’t want to end it either. Since, apparently, a lot of them are being blackmailed with pedophilia. I don’t know how to end this mess, except by exposing it.

Yours is “an attack on the garbage pit our culture has descended into.” I agree, our society has bad systems, that are destroying our society from within, definitely including our “mental health” system. But this, of course, means we’ve had the wrong ‘monied powers that be,’ war mongering and profiteering, fiscally irresponsible, bailout needing, “banks steal $trillions worth of houses,” banksters in charge of America for way too long.

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A well-stated and telling narrative Patrick. How unethical and irresponsible of the media to never question the psychiatric “care” the deceased person was receiving that clearly did NOT help but instead make a push for more of the same. The fallacies and biased reporting by the media is certainly contributing to more people dying.

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Please, oh please, can we bring this discussion into mainstream media outlets? I know there were the landmark articles in the NY Times and other outlets in the past few years, but this information needs to be shouted from the rooftops. I am convinced of the direct connection between antidepressant drug prescription and suicide, violence, and yes, mass shootings. This is from direct experience with withdrawal and the dark, inhuman places it brought my mind, and it is detailed in sites like RxISK and Mad In America. These resources provide important and fearless work, but the message that has yet to reach the ether of general public awareness.

How and when can we start discussing the co-occurring issues of gun violence and antidepressant use in rational and concrete ways? Interestingly enough, presidential candidate Marianne Williamson has shed light on the alarming overprescription of antidepressants (and withdrawal!) to some backlash. I’m sure as a community adversely affected by antidepressants, we stand with her comments. And no, the comments do NOT stigmatize mental illness, in fact they advocate for safer and less damaging treatment.

Read interview with Williamson: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/us/politics/marianne-williamson-mental-health.html
Read about the backlash/response she received: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/marianne-williamson-wrong-about-antidepressants-866807/

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Its not just the money. It is also because our society has a commitment to denial. When she was at her best, Alice Miller unconditionally denounced all forms of Psychotherapy.

If only she was able to protect herself from violators and hold to that.

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A friend sent this to me recently–

The Rwandan prescription for Depression: Sun, drum, dance, community. “We had a lot of trouble with western mental health workers who came here immediately after the genocide and we had to ask some of them to leave. They came and their practice did not involve being outside in the sun where you begin to feel better, there was no music or drumming to get your blood flowing again, there was no sense that everyone had taken the day off so that the entire community could come together to try to lift you up and bring you back to joy, there was no acknowledgement of the depression as something invasive and external that could actually be cast out again. Instead they would take people one at a time into these dingy little rooms and have them sit around for an hour or so and talk about bad things that had happened to them. We had to ask them to leave.” ~A Rwandan talking to a western writer, Andrew Solomon, about his experience with western mental health and depression.

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When Alice Miller was at her greatest, she denounced every conceivable form of psychotherapy with zero exceptions. She resigned from all psychoanalytic associations, and she apologized for having led some of her readers into psychotherapy. She said that every form of psychotherapy was simply a denial system.

So how then does one recover their lost feelings? Well what worked for her was water color painting. She writes about this very well, and shows her paintings, in “Pictures of a Childhood”.

I would say that her paintings are a bit bleak, and fairly non-descript. But she was able to understand abuses she suffered from these.

And I also point out two additional points she makes First, she insisted that her paintings only worked so well because she had never studied any technique for painting. If she had studied any technique, she insisted that her painting would have been worthless.

Second, she explained that during her psychoanalytic training, she underwent two complete courses of psychoanalysis. She explained that this uncovered none of the abuses which she found by herself by doing water color paintings. Hence, those courses of psychoanalyses were worthless, mere denial systems.

Now as I am describing, this was the early Alice Miller, the first 7 books.

Then she went dark for a number of years, and when she came back she was only a pale reflection of what she had been. She had hooked up with this J. Conrad Stettbacher, a kind of a cult leader, and that cult based upon his own adaptation of Primal Therapy. Seems that she was really harmed by it. It is a very manipulative therapy, but all therapy is.

From reading Stettbacher’s book, I would say that someone might want to do something like what Stettbacher suggests by themselves, like a kind of meditation. But I would never suggest that anyone ever let anyone else lead them in any kind of Regression Therapy, not Janov, not anyone.

I have done what Stettbacher suggests, by myself for years and years, and in many variations, along with lots of journaling and various sorts of spiritual exercises. And I am always developing new approaches. It is a continual and life long project, to remember the parts of myself which have been cut off.

Now returning to Miller, I have always said, she opened doors but she was not able to walk through them herself.

She showed how the issue is not child abuse, rather it is what of The Family which is considered good and required, which is so harmful. And in this sense I would say that she is more like Foucault, than like a liberal pedagogue.

She saw and showed how bogus psychotherapy was, but she still wanted to believe. So she went with a regression therapist and got badly harmed. Its just like R. D. Laing before her, getting swallowed up in regression therapy. And of course it gets into things which are prenatal and of past lives. Totally impossible to redress, and this is no accident.

Miller reached the point where the way forward was clearly redress. But she never took any steps in that direction.

She asked why in artistic works Isaac is always mute. She said that if he raised his hand against his father, “then that would start the war we all fear.”

Well that is how she thought, that was as far as she could go. I say it was religion and experiences in the Warsaw Ghetto which weakened her.

As she started to write again she doubled back on herself and re-endorsed psychotherapy, as a way to get that “enlightened witness”.

But some observers have pointed out that “enlightened witness” is probably a bad translation of her German. Some say it should be “helping witness”, as it gets translated into Spanish. “Enlightenment” plays into the dissociation and detachment which you find in religion and psychotherapy.

Helping Witness could mean different things, what age are they helping you at, and with what sorts of things?

For myself I have stopped using these terms and instead introduced my own take, seeking “Comrades”. People think this is Russian, but it actually comes from French.

People learn and grow when they place themselves at risk and enter into real conflict. And sorry to say, a psychotherapist is not going to be a comrade.

On her web site they associate her with “Child Abuse”. I say this is totally inaccurate. Child abuse means that which is recognized as abuse and what the law might punish.

What she wrote about in those first 7 books was that which is not seen at all, what is considered good and necessary.

If you had to sum up what she was about at her best, I would say it would be:

Anti-Pedagogy, all pedagogy, coercive and liberal
Exposing the Middle-Class Family, because that is who reads and writes the pedagogy manuals
Anti-Psychotherapy.

But most of the people who say that they follow Alice Miller really understand very little of this. They want to make her into something of a liberal pedagogue.

I will say that she found ways to sneak out and back in, at the Warsaw Ghetto. She made common cause with Polish Resistance, and she was able to bring in food.

Also, Pictures of a Childhood was out of print for years and years. So finally I called the publisher in NYC and got someone who knew about it. He found one in a back room, it was dusty. And they let me have it at retail price without sales tax. This would have been around 1990. With her books say 6 and 7, I was reading them right as they came out onto the store shelves. But Pictures of a Childhood was the one I had such a hard time getting hold of, more pictures than words.

When she went dark I was very disappointed. But then when she started to write again, post Stettbacher, it was nothing like she was before. I would not have read her early stuff if it was like that.

Since Pictures of a Childhood has been reissued in paper back from.

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When Alice Miller was at her greatest, she denounced every conceivable form of psychotherapy, with zero exceptions. She resigned from all psychoanalytic associations, and she apologized for having led some of her readers into psychotherapy. She said that every form of psychotherapy was simply a denial system.

So how then does one recover their lost feelings? Well what worked for her was water color painting. She writes about this very well, and shows her paintings, in “Pictures of a Childhood”.

I would say that her paintings are a bit bleak, and fairly non-descript. But she was able to understand abuses she suffered from these.

And I also point out two additional points she makes First, she insisted that her paintings only worked so well because she had never studied any technique for painting. If she had studied any technique, she insisted that her painting would have been worthless.

Second, she explained that during her psychoanalytic training, she underwent two complete courses of psychoanalysis. She explained that this uncovered none of the abuses which she found by herself by doing water color paintings. Hence, those courses of psychoanalyses were worthless, mere denial systems.

Now as I am describing, this was the early Alice Miller, the first 7 books.

Then she went dark for a number of years, and when she came back she was only a pale reflection of what she had been. She had hooked up with this J. Conrad Stettbacher, a kind of a cult leader, and that cult based upon his own adaptation of Primal Therapy. Seems that she was really harmed by it. It is a very manipulative therapy, but all therapy is.

From reading Stettbacher’s book, I would say that someone might want to do something like what Stettbacher suggests by themselves, like a kind of meditation. But I would never suggest that anyone ever let anyone else lead them in any kind of Regression Therapy, not Janov, not anyone.

I have done what Stettbacher suggests, by myself for years and years, and in many variations, along with lots of journaling and various sorts of spiritual exercises. And I am always developing new approaches. It is a continual and life long project, to remember the parts of myself which have been cut off.

Now returning to Miller, I have always said, she opened doors but she was not able to walk through them herself.

She showed how the issue is not child abuse, rather it is what of The Family which is considered good and required, which is so harmful. And in this sense I would say that she is more like Foucault, than like a liberal pedagogue.

She saw and showed how bogus psychotherapy was, but she still wanted to believe. So she went with a regression therapist and got badly harmed. Its just like R. D. Laing before her, getting swallowed up in regression therapy. And of course it gets into things which are prenatal and of past lives. Totally impossible to redress, and this is no accident.

Miller reached the point where the way forward was clearly redress. But she never took any steps in that direction.

She asked why in artistic works Isaac is always mute. She said that if he raised his hand against his father, “then that would start the war we all fear.”

Well that is how she thought, that was as far as she could go. I say it was religion and experiences in the Warsaw Ghetto which weakened her.

As she started to write again she doubled back on herself and re-endorsed psychotherapy, as a way to get that “enlightened witness”.

But some observers have pointed out that “enlightened witness” is probably a bad translation of her German. Some say it should be like “helping witness”, as it gets translated into Spanish. “Enlightenment” plays into the dissociation and detachment which you find in religion and psychotherapy.

Helping Witness could mean different things, what age are they helping you at, and with what sorts of things?

For myself I have stopped using these terms and instead introduced my own take, seeking “Comrades”. People think this is Russian, but it actually comes from French.

People learn and grow when they place themselves at risk and enter into real conflict.

And I know this myself, having entered into contentious matters and having seen how I was sold out as a child. No form of therapy could ever have exposed this, and really nothing other than intense consequential conflict could have.

The physical pain is intense, like having your bones eating away from the inside by acid.

People who have gone thru this will fight. They know that healing and recovery are scams. And they know that only by fighting do they have any chance of restoring their public honor. And when people fight well, they draw comrades. The rest of the people are just commiserators.

And sorry to say, a psychotherapist is not going to be a comrade.

On her web site they associate her with “Child Abuse”. I say this is totally inaccurate. Child abuse means that which is recognized as abuse and which the law might punish.

What she wrote about in those first 7 books was that which is not seen at all, what is considered good and necessary.

If you had to sum up what she was about at her best, I would say it would be:

1. Anti-Pedagogy, all pedagogy, coercive and liberal

2. Exposing the Middle-Class Family, because this is who reads and writes the pedagogy manuals

3. Anti-Psychotherapy

But most of the people who say that they follow Alice Miller really understand very little of this. They want to make her into something of a liberal pedagogue.

I will say that she found ways to sneak out and back in, at the Warsaw Ghetto. She made common cause with Polish Resistance, and she was able to bring in food.

Also, Pictures of a Childhood was out of print for years and years. So finally I called the publisher in NYC and got someone who knew about it. He found one in a back room, it was dusty. And they let me have it at retail price without sales tax. This would have been around 1990. With her books, say 6 and 7, I was reading them right as they came out onto the store shelves. But Pictures of a Childhood was the one I had such a hard time getting hold of, more pictures than words.

When she went dark I was very disappointed. But then when she started to write again, post Stettbacher, it was nothing like she was before. I would not have read her early stuff if it was like that.

Since, Pictures of a Childhood has been reissued in paper back from.

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Publisher let me have it at the retail price, but they never even asked for sales tax or shipping and handling costs.

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I agree entirely that antidepressant drugs are absolutely bad news, but for some people, especially women, depression isn’t a minor problem. Check out my book “Beating Depression and Bipolar Disorder without Drugs: A Memoir of Survival in a Male Dominated World.” Julia A. Sherman, PhD

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Do we know what she was on? Do we know that she committed suicide? How do we know it wasn’t an opioid overdose? These are often accidental, due to misjudging how much to take or due to buying stronger drugs than usual without knowing it.

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How the awareness of injustice which Feminism brought us in the 1970’s, got turned into a Therapy and Recovery Project, in the 1980’s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIC4uKSFpL0

And what Peter Breggin wrote in Toxic Psychiatry is, “People are depressed because they are leading depressing lives.” I don’t take this as a jab at those who are depressed, I take it as a recognition of the fact that people don’t see political activism as being available for them. They don’t see ways to change affairs. They are not finding Comrades, they are inundated with Commiserators.

And where I am, local authorities keep most of the poor and homeless women drugged, because it makes it easier for cops and paramedics to deal with them.

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It has been reported that Epstein has been receiving regular psychotherapy since his first suicide attempt a few weeks ago. Today, “psychotherapy” invariably means drug treatment and antidepressants are indicated for suicidal depression. It will be sometime before we learn about any drugs given to Epstein, but when we do, that drug will likely be a factor in many suicides.

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