Mental Health Survival Kit, Chapter 2: Is Psychiatry Evidence Based? (Part 1)


Editor’s Note: Over the next several months, Mad in America is publishing a serialized version of Peter Gøtzsche’s book, Mental Health Survival Kit and Withdrawal from Psychiatric Drugs. In this blog, he explores the research and experience of psychiatric diagnoses. Each Monday, a new section of the book is published, and all chapters are archived here.

Psychiatry was in a state of crisis in the United States in the middle of the last century because psychologists were more popular than psychiatrists.1 The psychiatric guild therefore decided to make psychiatry a medical specialty, which would make psychiatrists look like real doctors and delineate them from psychologists who were not allowed to prescribe drugs.

Ever since, massive propaganda, fraud, manipulation of research data, hiding suicides and other deaths, and lies in drug marketing have paved the way for the illusion that psychiatry is a respectable discipline that provides drugs that cure patients.1-4

As explained in the first chapter, the “customers,” the patients and their relatives, do not agree with the salespeople. When this is the case, the providers are usually quick to change their products or services, but this doesn’t happen in psychiatry, which has a monopoly on treating patients with mental health issues, with family doctors as their complacent frontline sales staff that do not ask uncomfortable questions about what they are selling.

The family doctor is most people’s port of entry into psychiatry. This is where sad, worried, stressed, or burned-out people address their symptoms. The doctor rarely allots the necessary time to inquire about the events that caused the patient to end up in this situation. The consultation often ends after a few minutes with a diagnosis, which might not be correct, and a prescription for one or more psychiatric drugs, although talk therapy might have been better. A study in the United States showed that over half the physicians wrote prescriptions after discussing depression with patients for three minutes or less.5

You might get a psychiatric drug even if there is no good reason to prescribe it for you, e.g. a depression pill for insomnia, problems at school, exam anxiety, harassment at work, marital abuse, break-up with a boyfriend, bereavement, economic problems, or divorce. This is also common if you see a psychiatrist.

In contrast to other medical specialties, psychiatry is built on a number of myths, which have been rejected so firmly by good research that it is appropriate to call them lies. I therefore warn you again. Most of what you have been told or will ever hear about psychiatry, psychiatric drugs, electroshock, and forced admission and treatment, is wrong. This has been documented in numerous research articles and books.1-11

Here is some general advice, which will lead to better outcomes than if it is ignored:

  1. It is rarely a good idea to see a family doctor if you have a mental health issue. As doctors are trained in using drugs, you will most likely be harmed (if not in the short-term, then in the long-term).
  2. If you get a prescription from your family doctor for a psychiatric drug, don’t go to the pharmacy.
  3. Find someone who is good at talk therapy, e.g. a psychologist. If you cannot afford it or if there is a long waiting list, then remember it is usually better to do nothing than to see your doctor.
  4. Consider if you need a social counsellor or a lawyer. Doctors cannot help you with a broken marriage, for example, and pills won’t help you either.

Let’s have a closer look at what is wrong with current-day psychiatry.

Psychiatrists claim that their specialty is built on the biopsychosocial model of disease that takes biology, psychology, and socio-environmental factors into account when trying to explain why people fall ill.

The reality is vastly different. Biological psychiatry has been the predominant disease model ever since the president of the US Society of Biological Psychiatry, Harold Himwich, in 1955 came up with the totally absurd idea that neuroleptics work like insulin for diabetes.9

It even seems to be getting worse. Fifteen years ago, some of psychiatry’s spokespersons were more concerned than today’s leaders about the dangers of being too close to the drug industry. Steven Sharfstein, president of the American Psychiatric Association, wrote in 2005:

“As we address these Big Pharma issues, we must examine the fact that as a profession, we have allowed the biopsychosocial model to become the bio-bio-bio model … Drug company representatives bearing gifts are frequent visitors to psychiatrists’ offices and consulting rooms. We should have the wisdom and distance to call these gifts what they are – kickbacks and bribes … If we are seen as mere pill pushers and employees of the pharmaceutical industry, our credibility as a profession is compromised.”12

Other statements were less fortunate: “Pharmaceutical companies have developed and brought to market medications that have transformed the lives of millions of psychiatric patients.” Sure, but not for the better.

“The proven effectiveness of antidepressant, mood-stabilizing, and antipsychotic medications has helped sensitize the public to the reality of mental illness and taught them that treatment works. In this way, Big Pharma has helped reduce stigma associated with psychiatric treatment and with psychiatrists.”

The treatments do not provide worthwhile effects, particularly not when their harms are considered as well, and the stigma has increased.4 But that’s how the psychiatric leaders fool people.

A systematic review of 33 studies found that biogenetic causal attributions weren’t associated with more tolerant attitudes; they were related to stronger rejection in most studies examining schizophrenia.13 Biological pseudo-explanations increase perceived dangerousness, fear, and desire for distance from patients with schizophrenia because they make people believe that the patients are unpredictable,13-16 and they also lead to reductions in clinicians’ empathy and to social exclusion.17

The biological model generates undue pessimism about the chances of recovery and reduces efforts to change, compared to a psychosocial explanation. Many patients describe discrimination as more long-lasting and disabling than the psychosis itself, and a major barrier to recovery.14,15 Patients and their families experience more stigma and discrimination from mental health professionals than from any other sector of society, and over 80% of people with the schizophrenia label think that the diagnosis itself is damaging and dangerous. Therefore, some psychiatrists now avoid using the term schizophrenia.15

Sharfstein admitted that, “there is less psychotherapy provided by psychiatrists than 10 years ago. This is true despite the strong evidence base that many psychotherapies are effective used alone or in combination with medications.” What a tragedy this is. This is not the progress we hear so much about.

Sharfstein couldn’t resist the temptation of playing the “antipsychiatry” card: “responding to the antipsychiatry remarks … one of the charges against psychiatry … is that many patients are being prescribed the wrong drugs or drugs they don’t need. These charges are true, but it is not psychiatry’s fault – it is the fault of the broken health care system that the United States appears to be willing to endure.”

Of course. All the harms psychiatrists cause by overdosing entire populations are NEVER their fault, but someone else’s.

Psychiatrist Niall McLaren has written a very instructive book with many patient stories telling us that anxiety is a key symptom in psychiatry.11 If a psychiatrist or family doctor doesn’t take a very careful history, they might miss that the current episode of distress, which they diagnose as depression, started as anxiety many years earlier when the patient was a teenager. They should therefore have dealt with the anxiety with talk therapy instead of handing out pills.

Niall has developed a standard way with which he approaches all new patients in order not to overlook anything important. It takes time, but the time invested initially pays back many times over and leads to better outcomes for his patients than the standard approach in psychiatry.

Niall has an interest in philosophy but has been met with extreme hostility when he challenged his colleagues by asking them what the foundation was for their biological model of psychiatric disorders. There is none. In his own words:11

“So we can forget biological psychiatry. Trouble is, an awful lot of people have an awful lot of money invested in giving biological treatments for mental disorder, and they won’t give it up without a fight. Worse still, there’s an awful lot of high-flying academic psychiatrists around the world who have invested their entire careers, and their egos (which is much worse), in claiming that mental disorder is biological in nature. They will fight tenaciously to save their jobs and their reputations. So we’re stuck with biological psychiatry for a while. Just because it has been proven wrong doesn’t mean it will fade away overnight. The value of biological psychiatry is that it isn’t necessary to talk to a patient beyond asking a few standard questions to work out which disease he has, and that can easily be done by a nurse armed with a questionnaire. This will give a diagnosis which then dictates the drugs he should have.”

Biological psychiatry assumes that specific diagnoses exist that result from specific changes in the brain, and that there are specific drugs that correct these changes, which are therefore beneficial. We shall look at these assumptions one by one.

Are psychiatric diagnoses specific and reliable?

Psychiatric diagnoses are neither specific nor reliable.4,6,18,19 They are highly unspecific, and psychiatrists disagree wildly when asked to diagnose the same patients independently of each other. There are few such studies, and their results were so embarrassing for the American Psychiatric Association that they buried them so deeply that it required extensive detective work to find them.19 The funeral took place in a smoke of positive rhetoric in surprisingly short articles, given the importance of the subject. Even the largest study, of 592 people, was disappointing, although the investigators took great care in training the assessors.20

Psychiatric diagnoses are not built on science but are consensus-type exercises where it is decided by a show of hands which symptoms should be included in a diagnostic test.18 This checklist approach is like the familiar parlour game, Find Five Errors. A person who has at least five symptoms out of nine is declared depressed.

If we look hard enough, we will find “errors” in all people. There is nothing objective and verifiable about this way of making diagnoses, which are derived from an arbitrary constellation of symptoms. How many criteria and which ones do we vote for need to be present to make a given diagnosis?

I lecture a lot for various audiences, both professionals and lay people, and I often expose people to the recommended test for adult ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder).4,21 It never fails. Between one-third and one-half of the audience test positive.

When I tested my wife, she scored a full house, which is six out of six criteria. Only four positive replies to the questionnaire are needed for the diagnosis. Once, when one of my daughters and her boyfriend visited us for dinner, we discussed the silliness of psychiatric diagnoses and to illustrate it, I subjected them to the test. My daughter scored five, like I did, and her very laid-back boyfriend whom I would never suspect would be positive, scored four. So, we were four people enjoying our dinner and company, all with a bogus psychiatric diagnosis.

My little exercise makes people realise how foolish and unscientific psychiatric diagnoses are. I always tell people that I am in the same boat as them and that they shouldn’t worry but be happy, as the song by Bobby McFerrin goes, because some of the most interesting people I have ever met qualify for the ADHD diagnosis. They are dynamic and creative and have difficulty sitting still on their chairs pretending they are listening if the lecturer is dull.

Yet, the psychiatrists have had the barefaced impudence to tell the whole world that people with an ADHD diagnosis suffer from a “neurodevelopmental disorder.” The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) used in the USA and the International Classification of Disorders (ICD-11) used in Europe both say this.

To postulate that billions of people have wrong brains is as outrageous as it gets.


One of the times I lectured for “Better psychiatry,” a woman in the audience said: “I have ADHD.” I replied: “No, you haven’t. You can have a dog, a car or a boyfriend, but you cannot have ADHD. It is a social construct.” I explained it is just a label, not something that exists in nature, like an elephant everyone can see. People tend to think they get an explanation for their troubles when psychiatrists give them a name, but this is circular reasoning. Paul behaves in a certain way, and we will give this behaviour a name, ADHD. Paul behaves this way because he has ADHD. Logically, it is impossible to argue this way.

I often joked during my lectures that we also need a diagnosis for those children who are too good at sitting still and not make themselves seen or heard in class. This became true, with the invention of the diagnosis ADD, attention deficit disorder, without the hyperactivity. From that day on, I have joked about how long we shall wait before we will also see a diagnosis for those in the middle, because then there will be a drug for everyone and the drug industry will have reached their ultimate goal, that no one will escape being treated.

The depression diagnosis isn’t much better. It is very easy to get this diagnosis even though you are not really depressed but just feel a little beside your usual self.4

Even the more serious diagnoses are highly uncertain. Many people—in some studies, by far most of them—have been considered on revision to have been wrongly diagnosed with schizophrenia.4

Given this immense uncertainty, disagreement, and arbitrariness, it should be very easy to get rid of a wrong diagnosis. However, it’s impossible, and there is no court of appeal like in criminal cases. It is like in medieval times where people were condemned for no reason and with no possibility of appeal. As you will see in the section about forced treatment in Chapter 4, the law is routinely being violated, which we would not tolerate in any other sector of society.

It doesn’t seem to matter whether a diagnosis is correct or wrong. It follows you for the rest of your life and can make it difficult to get the education you dream about, a job, certain pensions, to become approved for adoption, or even just to keep your driver’s licence.22,23

Furthermore, psychiatric diagnoses are frequently being abused in child custody cases when the parents get divorced.22 Even when the diagnosis is obviously wrong and the psychiatrist herself seriously doubted it when she made it, you cannot have it removed.23 It sticks to you forever, as if you were a branded cow.

Danish filmmaker Anahi Testa Pedersen made the film Diagnosing Psychiatry24 about my attempts at creating a better psychiatry and about her own struggles with the system. She got the diagnosis schizotypy, which is a very vague and highly dubious concept (see Chapter 5), when she was admitted to a psychiatric ward due to severe distress over a divorce.

It was obvious that she suffered from acute distress and should never have had a psychiatric diagnosis or been treated with drugs, but at the ward they gave her quetiapine, a neuroleptic, and escitalopram, a depression pill. Anahi was deeply shocked to learn that even though she had voluntarily contacted the psychiatric ward, the doors were locked behind her. When she questioned her diagnosis at discharge, she was told: “Here, we make diagnoses!”22 The drugs doped her and made her apathic, and she withdrew from them.

Another shock came eight years later when she received a letter from Psychiatry in the Capital Region. They wanted to examine her daughter. They believed that psychiatric disorders are inherited and that it is therefore likely that children of the mentally ill will also become ill.

Anahi became angry. Her daughter is well functioning, happy, healthy, and has many friends. The summons came without her being asked about her course after discharge, or her daughter’s situation and well-being, and the letter stigmatised both her and her daughter. She phoned a psychiatrist at the department where she had stayed eight years previously, but even though her family doctor assured her that she was well and that it was remarkable that she got the diagnosis in the first place, she was also told, by the psychiatrist, when she asked for a re-examination: “The system doesn’t do that!” She was left with a lifetime, yet erroneous, sentence. This wouldn’t have happened if she had been wrongly sentenced for a crime, but in psychiatry, this is perfectly “normal.”

The sticking diagnosis problem is an awfully good reason not to see a psychiatrist.


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  1. “The sticking diagnosis problem is an awfully good reason not to see a psychiatrist”.

    I agree, but the “sticking diagnosis problem” is a good reason not see other “mental health” workers, as well. If the “mental health” worker wants to be paid (if insurance is paying for the sessions), it is required that the person seeking help be given a billable diagnosis. Whether that person is a psychiatrist, social worker, psychologist or counselor, it doesn’t matter. They all have to “diagnose” in order for insurance to pay them.

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    • Thus, all DSM believing “mental health” workers are corrupted, since their entire DSM “billing code bible” belief system is a corrupted system. See my later “medical evidence” proof of this, in this conversation, for the “medical evidence” of this societal problem.

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        • Yes, the corruption of all the DSM deluded “mental health” industries is “mind boggling” in its scope, 1Wayfarer.

          Fiachra, we usually both agree, with the impropriety of the scientific fraud and harm that the “mental health” industries have systemically been perpetrating, for decades, against innocent humans.

          It’s truly shameful.

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          • Thank You Someone Else,

            When Dr Peter Gøtzsche described the diagnosis “Schizotypy” given to the Danish Film Maker, I thought it was a misspelling, so I looked it up on Wikipedia.


            “…In psychology, schizotypy is a theoretical concept that posits a continuum of personality characteristics and experiences, ranging from normal dissociative, imaginative states to extreme states of mind related to psychosis, especially schizophrenia. ..”

            Its Gaslighting.

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  2. When psychiatry says their drugs are evidence based what they mean is “short term, cherry picked, unblinded (drug effects unblind participants), withdraw (the placebo group is put through drug withdrawal) studies from people selling the drugs find a small improvement on our subjective questionnaire.”

    Serotonin studies find 1 in 5 or 7 people will experience a short term drug benefit in these studies equivalent to them now agreeing that they are ill, or they gained weight, or they fidget less. Each of those three things equals a 2 point improvement. The typical drug benefit in the most pro-drug biased and flawed studies is a 1.5 point improvement.

    Using the evidence base psychiatry uses we could claim tobacco and alcohol are safe and effective medicines. 6 week studies show tobacco is safe, relieves stress, and provides energy. Alcohol withdraw studies show alcohol saves lives and reduces anxiety.

    Any research showing the medicines long term cause harm is clearly fraudulent. We all know that people who quit alcohol do so because they are less ill than those who stayed on. People don’t quit alcohol because it has negative effects because it has none.

    They quit the medicine because they are less ill and that is why they have better outcomes. Though clearly those quitting lack insight and are stupid because they are mentally ill. Anyone saying otherwise is shamming and stigmatizing sick people and they need to be censored for the good of society. (I understand how absurd my last several paragraph are but it is absurd precisely because it is repeating what psychiatry says).

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  3. I guess since this is not a survivor-run site I’ll just need to get used to “shrinksplaining,” which is not a complaint directed at the author (or at Sami Tamimi before him) but at the general attitude that what survivors know (or can easily learn) based on our own experience is not credible unless it is mouthed by a “professional.” This reinforces the myth that we are dealing with some sort of “science”; however that illusion goes out the window the first time someone uses the terms “mental health” or “mental illness.” What it also reinforces is the belief that we need “experts” to validate what we already know, but are constantly told is beyond our capacity to comprehend.

    Rather than get too wrapped up in arguments that are borne of absurd assumptions, hence not resolvable, I will repeat my constant theme regarding the concept of “evidence-based” this and that. First, that it is a bizarre development to now hear people bragging that their programs and “treatments” are “evidence based,” i.e. based on evidence. Is this the most they can say about their work — that it is “based on evidence”? Shouldn’t it be assumed that any purportedly scientific endeavor is based on evidence, i.e. data?

    But beyond that, even if something is based on “evidence” anyone familiar with the court system knows that “evidence” is not proof, and that BOTH opposing sides present their cases based on their own evidence. What counts is not the existence of “evidence,” but how it is interpreted and put into context. So enough with the promotion of “evidence-based” as synonymous with “valid.”

    Beyond that, “mental health survival” is a pretty useless and contradictory notion, so I’ll stay away from that one. The best way to “survive mental health” is stay away from it. Works with dens of scorpions too.

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    • Actually, that is a good point! If they are advertising being “evidence based medicine,” isn’t that a tacit admission that their prior “medicine” was NOT evidence based?

      Of course, it is impossible to have a real evidence base for “disorders” that are not objectively distinguishable from non-“disordered” conditions, which the DSM itself admits in its introduction is the case for any and all of the DSM “diagnoses.” Kind of like collecting “evidence” to “treat” laziness or cowardice or spontaneity or joy. It is an illogical proposition from the word go.

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      • Good points. They claim the drugs they are selling are evidence based to help the new “patient” while simultaneously telling the old patient they need to try a 4th drug because the disease is so different we can’t know which drug will help who. Trial and erroring 4+ addicting deadly drugs on people while claiming the drugs work and are needed for life sounds like cognitive dissonance to me. Of course they don’t give the informed consent about withdrawal and instead pretend withdraw from addicting drugs is proof the drugs are good.

        Oldheads court comment reminded me how psychiatry the ones whose income, moral and social status depend on the drugs get to be the expert witness, judge, and jury. The defendant, accused of maiming/disabling/killing millions is the authority and everyone disagreeing with the defendant is called crazy or worse.

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  4. “The sticking diagnosis problem is an awfully good reason not to see a psychiatrist.” I do agree. However, it is not “impossible” to get a psychiatric or psychological misdiagnosis off one’s medical records.

    If you are able to find an ethical and self confident doctor, like for example, as in my case, the head of family medicine of one of the most well respected hospitals in the world. And you calmly medically explain how, and the unethical motives for why, you were misdiagnosed.

    You can sometimes get an ethical doctor – but make sure he is not related or affiliated in any way, to the prior malpractice committing doctors – to take the prior DSM misdiagnosis off your medical records.

    And for anyone misdiagnosed with the “serious mental illnesses,” like “bipolar” or “schizophrenia,” explaining this to an ethical doctor may work to help you get the DSM misdiagnosis off your medical records.

    If you happened to have been prescribed an antidepressant or ADHD drug, prior to your “serious mental illness” misdiagnosis, as I unknowingly was. I happened to be prescribed a dangerous antidepressant by a disingenuous PCP, under the guise of a “safe smoking cessation med.”

    But I think there’s now enough evidence about the adverse and withdrawal effects of the antidepressants out there, that this may also work for someone who had the adverse or withdrawal effects of the antidepressants, given for any reason, get a “serious mental illness” misdiagnosis off their medical records.

    Robert Whitaker’s work, and his “Anatomy of an Epidemic,” is of course, invaluable. Many thanks to Mr. Whitaker. Start by sharing his work and book. And the fact that even the DSM-IV-TR knew it was morally wrong to misdiagnose the common adverse effects of the antidepressants as “bipolar” or “schizophrenia.”

    And for anyone who was misdiagnosed with a “schizophrenia” diagnosis. The negative symptoms of “schizophrenia” can be created with the “gold standard schizophrenia treatments,” via neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome.

    And if a person was misdiagnosed, due to the positive symptoms of “schizophrenia,” like “psychosis” and “hallucinations.” Those symptoms can be created, via anticholinergic toxidrome. A medically known way to poison a person, that is missing from the psychiatric DSM.

    And all doctors were taught this in med school. So any ethical doctor should theoretically take a “serious mental illness” misdiagnosis off your medical records, if you point this “evidence based” medical evidence out to them.

    Thank you for your honesty, Peter.

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  5. A psychiatrist stated on a panel discussion after a virtual screening of the movie “Medicating Normal”, the following:

    “We need to get rid of the DSM. I can say that because I was one of the people who helped create the original DSM…. Why did we create the DSM? Because we were cheerful that drugs would find solutions so we created categories in psychiatry in the hope that this category would lead to a drug cure. And we were very optimistic. And it turned out – oh, it didn’t work. And the categories are false categories. But now we’re still stuck in the categories created in 1980 when we thought that the drugs had more promise than they actually had…”

    Maybe some participants in the system are waking up or finally admitting the falsity of it all.

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  6. “To postulate that millions of people have wrong brains is as outrageous as it gets.” But, stick around stool pigeon, and we’ll give you that wrong brain you so desire whether you know that’s what you want or not. Couple that with “The sticking diagnosis problem is an awful good reason not to see a psychiatrist.” I would not even advise or suggest to my “worst enemy” to see a psychiatrist or one of their helpers. Mister Rodgers always told his tv audience to look for the “helpers.” He probably meant well, but, tragically that advice is no longer optimal or healthy. To stay healthy, avoid all doctors, if possible, and avoid all psychiatrists and their mental illness buddies without question. This is another excellent article by a doctor who knows and can sadly speak from experience about others who have M.D.s such as he does. Thank you.

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  7. If you want to kiss your freedom goodbye, get a label. If I knew then what I know now about “personality” and “beliefs”, although I’m not even sure that “belief” is the right term when speaking about the MH industry. It’s more of an adherence, coupled with an antihealth, antisocial type personality. Every shrink knows exactly what the labels and drugs do, so tell me why then would they insist on doing this to people? It can only come from a place of complete stupidity or deep down hatred of people. Think that sounds too “over the top”? Psych will always defend their practice of harm by saying “well there is nothing else, we are it”
    What amazes me is that when people finally address them about their false and harmful practice, they get super angry and lose it and take it out on you.

    Tell teenagers and anyone else to stay away from psych. And not to stick with any MH employee unless something clicks.
    Obviously we do need connections for those who need someone to talk with. But it will not be a shrink, his personality is not the type to be a helper and in fact hates emotional stuff.

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  8. Thank you for all your work Dr. Gotzsche and thank God for professionals such as yourself who have ethics, honesty and integrity.

    “They will fight tenaciously to save their jobs and their reputations”.

    That’s definitely at the core of why psychiatry resists/refuses to acknowledge all the harm they inflict on people’s live.

    “It doesn’t seem to matter whether a diagnosis is correct or wrong. It follows you for the rest of your life..”. “It sticks to you forever, as if you were a branded cow”.
    “She was left with a lifetime, yet erroneous, sentence. This wouldn’t have happened if she had been wrongly sentenced for a crime, but in psychiatry, this is perfectly “normal.”

    Yes criminals are treated better and have more rights than someone who was seen by a psychiatrist.

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  9. A great book to read is “Mount Misery” by Samuel Shem- a (semi-autobiographical) account of a young doctor’s first year as a psychiatry registrar in USA. He wrote the famous “House of God” book – my daughter who is a medical student in Australia just read it – she loved it and said “Mum, it’s what you’ve been telling me” – as I (a GP) have arguments with my psychiatrist husband about the issues raised by the MIA team.

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  10. I’ve enjoyed what Abram Hoffer did when illness compelled him to stop working. He willed his patients to his secretary, who had picked up a doctorate in Naturopathic Medicine while working for him for 30 or so years. On several occasions, in his articles he’d remarked how she was frequently better with his patients than he was.

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    • bcharris,

      I enjoy Abram Hoffer before he ‘retired’ as a consultant and what not, and I’m pretty sure you do too based on many of your orthomolecular comments. Can you reference your statement on his assistant/secretary? Might I have seen that on their website? Maybe the personal ‘touch’ she used. I wonder what she did differently in terms of the bio/chemicals side.

      Even though I don’t always agree with his work, he’s given me much. I would never simply want to ‘abolish’ his entire psychiatric practice. Though at times, I do supplement (no pun intended) and contradict his thinking on matters, for example, psychosis. I find putting his work with medical psychologist Carl Jung, is a profound synergy.

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    • bcharris,

      I actually recall something to this effect, but I thought he included himself as having even better results in his new role, a role which he had to get a new certification. So it was their concerted effort and not just ‘her’ he was emphasizing. But I’d like to see the exact comment. Thx

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