The Three Types of Psychiatric Drugs – A Doctor’s Guide for Consumers

Lawrence Kelmenson, MD

When people call me up seeking “medication management,” I first say:

“There are three types of psychiatric drugs to choose from:

1. We’ve got placebos1 for all the suckers who bought into the idea of sadness being ‘a serious but treatable illness caused by chemical imbalance that occurs for no reason if you’re genetically vulnerable’. This turned out to be a pure hoax.2 That’s why antidepressants’ initial benefits invariably and disappointingly fade. It’s likely why users usually worsen over time,3 as they try one after another in futile pursuit of a myth.4

2. We’ve got drugs that really do lift you up — at first. But unfortunately they’re all addictive.5 6 Thus, with daily use, not only do you develop a tolerance, but you suffer horrible withdrawals if you try to stop them. Ultimately you need increasingly higher, impairing, and dangerous dosages in order to avoid withdrawals.7

3. And we’ve got sedatives that ensure that you’ll never again have any feelings, thoughts, or complaints, since they can’t selectively numb just your unpleasant sensations — they numb all sensations. They can be used to zombify your kids to make them instantly manageable, so you don’t need to raise them. But then they’ll never mature or reach their potential, and will likely continue using drugs as their only coping tool as adults.“

Usually people either hang up on me before I finish this speech, or let me finish and then politely request the name of another psychiatrist who’s more gung-ho about my field’s miracle pills. Occasionally they take me up on my offer to instead look into whatever is upsetting them (relationship troubles, losses, fears, life pressures, etc.).

Those psychiatrists who do push the medical model profit from it easily and greatly, since health insurers pay for these scams and since people trustingly line up to see them. Clients faithfully stay with them despite faring poorly, since they’re convinced it’s due to their ‘chronic illness’. Many must return religiously, due to becoming drug-addicted and/or needing ongoing medical documentation of permanent disability.

Psychiatrists are seen as hard-working, caring, understanding healers, but they’re really snake-oil salesmen, drug-dealers, and master-sedaters. What they do should be illegal. Someday everyone will realize that not only do psychiatrists not heal anything, they’re a major contributor to the recent rise in suicides and overdoses.

They say little in their brief sessions. But if you take the few things they do say, read between the lies and boil them down to their essence, you’ll be left with this message: “Whatever is upsetting you is not worth listening to — just shut up and take one of these shut-up pills.” (Isn’t that the gist of “Your painful feelings are mere symptoms of depression — a medically treatable illness,” for example?) It’s the essence of psychiatry’s role — the goal of all its treatments. So there’s really just one type of psych drug, not three, and just one type of medication management session, which I’ve summarized below:

“Shut up and take your pills,

And don’t forget to pay your bill.

Take one or take ‘em all, but please move it along,

‘Cause I’ve got an important meeting with a drug rep… Next!”

Show 7 footnotes

  1. Kirsch, I. The Emperor’s New Drugs: Exploding the Antidepressant Myth. Basic Books, 2010.
  2. Kapur, S, et al “Why Has it Taken So Long for Biological Psychiatry to Develop Clinical Tests?” Molecular Psych, 2012, 17, 1174-9.
  3. Whitaker, R. Anatomy of An Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America. Random House, 2010.
  4. Kaitrin ”How Many Antidepressant Meds Have You Tried?”, Aug 15, 2004.
  5. National Institute on Drug Abuse “Well-Known Mechanism Underlying Benzodiazepines’ Addictive Properties” April 19, 2012.
  6. National Institute on Drug Abuse “Prescription Stimulants: Drug Facts” June, 2018.
  7. Weich, S. “Effect of Anxiolytic and Hypnotic Drug Prescription on Mortality Hazards: Retrospective Cohort Study” BMJ 2014; 348: g1996.
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Lawrence Kelmenson, MD
Lawrence Kelmenson has practiced psychiatry for 32 years, working with children, adults, and families. He graduated medical school from State University of New York, and completed psychiatric residency training at Cornell. He then became staff psychiatrist, and later medical director, of Craig House Hospital in Beacon, New York until 2000, and has since conducted a psychotherapy-based private practice in Cold Spring, New York. 


  1. Hi Lawrence, Your Articles should be published everywhere!

    Mankind has known for hundreds and hundreds of years that any drug taken to make a person feel better will eventually make them feel a lot worse. It’s the Doctors that are telling Lies.

  2. Thank you for this stark summary of the truth about psychopharmacology in the 21st century. I guess these facts are still a rather difficult pill for most people to swallow (figuratively speaking). Indeed, there should be a chorus of comments on this piece. Instead? Crickets!! That should tell us something.

  3. Thank you, Lawrence, for concisely and accurately describing the “job” of a psychiatrist. I couldn’t agree more, “What they do should be illegal.” And, actually, a lot of what they do is illegal, given their primary actual societal function is covering up child abuse.

    “Whatever is upsetting you is not worth listening to — just shut up and take one of these shut-up pills.” “Oh, medical evidence of the abuse of your child was handed over? The best way to help a healing child abuse survivor is to have him psychiatrically drugged.”

    No thanks, the abuse occurred four years ago, and my child is doing much better now.

    “Then I declare your entire life to be a credible fictional story.”

    Are we done? You’re too crazy and criminal for me, child abuse covering up psychiatrist. And, no, I won’t sign a sheet full of clear stickers that say, “I swear this is true” on them. For you to later put on your medical records, that are filled with lies, misinformation, and gossip from the child abusers. I hadn’t realized that psychotherapy is nothing more than gossip masquerading as medicine. That should be illegal.

    By the way, your “antidepressants” and “antipsychotics” can create “psychosis,” via anticholinergic toxidrome. A toxidrome is a medically known way to poison people. All doctors are taught about anticholinergic toxidrome in med school. And intentionally poisoning people is a form of attempted murder, which is also illegal.

    Much or all of what the psychiatrists do, technically, is illegal.

  4. Here are several ecological studies on the link between psychiatry and suicides:

    Burgess, P., Pirkis, J., Jolley, D., Whiteford, H., & Saxena, S. (2004). Do nations’ mental health policies, programs and legislation influence their suicide rates? An ecological study of 100 countries. Australian and New Zealand journal of psychiatry, 38(11-12), 933-939.

    To test the hypothesis that the presence of national mental health policies, programs and legislation would be associated with lower national suicide rates.

    Suicide rates from 100 countries were regressed on mental health policy, program and legislation indicators.

    Contrary to the hypothesized relationship, the study found that after introducing mental health initiatives (with the exception of substance abuse policies), countries’ suicide rates rose.

    It is of concern that most mental health initiatives are associated with an increase in suicide rates. However, there may be acceptable reasons for the observed findings, for example initiatives may have been introduced in areas of increasing need, or a case-finding effect may be operating. Data limitations must also be considered.

    Shah, A., Bhandarkar, R., & Bhatia, G. (2010). The relationship between general population suicide rates and mental health funding, service provision and national policy: a cross-national study. International journal of social psychiatry, 56(4), 448-453.

    The main aims were to examine the relationship between general population suicide rates and the presence of national policies on mental health, funding for mental health, and measures of mental health service provision.

    Data on general population suicide rates for both genders were obtained from the World Health Organization (WHO) databank available on the WHO website. Data on the presence of national policies on mental health, funding for mental health and measures of mental health service provision were obtained from the Mental Health Atlas 2005, also available on the WHO website.

    The main findings were: (i) there was no relationship between suicide rates in both genders and different measures of mental health policy, except they were increased in countries with mental health legislation; (ii) there was a significant positive correlation between suicide rates in both genders and the percentage of the total health budget spent on mental health; and (iii) suicide rates in both genders were higher in countries with greater provision of mental health services, including the number of psychiatric beds, psychiatrists and psychiatric nurses, and the availability of training in mental health for primary care professionals.

    Cross-national ecological studies using national-level aggregate data are not helpful in establishing a causal relationship (and the direction of this relationship) between suicide rates and mental health funding, service provision and national policies. The impact of introducing national policies on mental health, increasing funding for mental health services and increasing mental health service provision on suicide rates requires further examination in longitudinal within-country studies.

    Rajkumar, A. P., Brinda, E. M., Duba, A. S., Thangadurai, P., & Jacob, K. S. (2013). National suicide rates and mental health system indicators: an ecological study of 191 countries. International journal of law and psychiatry, 36(5-6), 339-342.

    The relative contributions of psychiatric morbidity and psychosocial stress to suicide, and the efficacy of mental health systems in reducing population suicide rates, are currently unclear. This study, therefore, aimed to investigate whether national suicide rates are associated with their corresponding mental health system indicators.

    Relevant data were retrieved from the following sources: the World Health Organization, the United Nations Statistics Division and the Central Intelligence Agency World Fact book. Suicide rates of 191 countries were compared with their mental health system indicators using an ecological study design and multivariate non-parametric robust regression models.

    Significant positive correlations between suicide rates and mental health system indicators (p<0.001) were documented. After adjusting for the effects of major macroeconomic indices using multivariate analyses, numbers of psychiatrists (p=0.006) and mental health beds (p<0.001) were significantly positively associated with population suicide rates.

    Countries with better psychiatric services experience higher suicide rates. Although these associations should be interpreted with caution, as the issues are complex, we suggest that population-based public health strategies may have greater impact on national suicide rates than curative mental health services for individuals.

    Sher, L. (2016). are suicide rates related to the Psychiatrist Density? a cross-national study. Frontiers in public health, 3, 280.

    Most suicide victims have a diagnosable psychiatric disorder. Treatment of psychiatric disorders should reduce the number of suicides. Higher psychiatrist-per-­population ratio increases the opportunity for contact between the patient and psychiatrist. It is reasonable to hypothesize that the higher psychiatrist density (PD) is associated with lower suicide rates. The aim of this study is to examine the association between suicide rates and the PD in the European Union countries. These countries are economically and culturally connected and located on the same continent. This is an attempt to study a relatively homogenous sample.

    Correlations were computed to examine relationships between age-­standardized suicide rates in women and men, the PD, and the gross national income (GNI) per capita. Partial correlations were used to examine the relation between the PD and age-standardized suicide rates in women and men controlling for the GNI per capita.

    Higher suicide rates in women correlated with the higher PD. Controlling for the GNI per capita, the PD positively correlated with suicide rates both in women and in men. There was a trend toward a negative correlation between the GNI per capita and suicide rates in men. The PD was positively associated with the GNI per capita.

    Probably, higher suicide rates directly and/or indirectly affect the decisions made by policy- and lawmakers regarding mental health services and how many psychiatrists need to be trained. The results of this study should be treated with caution because many confounding variables are not taken into account.

    Conversely, here is a ecological study on the link between social support and suicides:

    Šedivy, N. Z., Podlogar, T., Kerr, D. C., & De Leo, D. (2017). Community social support as a protective factor against suicide: A gender-specific ecological study of 75 regions of 23 European countries. Health & place, 48, 40-46.

    By studying differences in suicide rates among different geographical regions one may identify factors connected to suicidal behaviour on a regional level. Many studies have focused on risk factors, whereas less is known about protective factors, such as social support. Using suicide rates and data from the European Social Survey (ESS) we explore the association between regional level social support indicator and suicide rates in 23 European countries in 2012. Linear multiple regression analyses using region as the unit of analysis revealed inverse relationships between mean respondent valuing of social support and suicide rates for both genders, with some indication of a stronger relationship among men. Social support may have a protective effect against suicide on a regional level. Thus, increasing social support could be an effective focus of preventive activities, resulting in lowering suicide rates, with greater expected results among men.

    Note that for the link between psychiatry and suicide, some researchers insist heavily that “correlation does not imply causality”, but for the link between social support and protection against suicide, they more readily admit that it could be causal, even if they use the same kind of analytical method.

    • Lily Pad:

      Before 2000, I worked at a hospital that was of a type that no longer exists: it was more of a place that people went to in order to get away from the stresses of life that were overwhelming them. There was no emergency room or involuntary commitment, and staff generally was very nurturing and patient. The focus was on going for walks on the extensive/beautiful grounds, participating in creative and physical outlets, and opening up and connecting to others in individual, family, and group psychotherapy. I had regular, long individual therapy sessions with all my “patients”, often while walking the grounds and appreciating nature together. I’m ashamed to admit that I did sometimes (sparingly) prescribe psych drugs. But I always stressed it was short-term for the crisis period, and often tapered people off them by discharge. It was never a focus; the psychotherapy always was.


  5. Lawrence,
    I am always amazed to see refined middle aged men with glasses talking in a very educated manner about the merits of the different psychiatric Drugs they prescribe, when in effect these drugs are just tranquillisers or antidepressants that any fool could dole out. These men are not qualified at anything.

    • Some psychiatric drugs, like antipsychotics, make it so that the person is more prone to abusing alcohol and street drugs. Nicotine use is very high among these people, it’s a stress-relief drug. I read a study recently that nicotine patches are effective treatment for antipsychotic-induced akathisia.

        • Yes Rachel that craving happened to me and looking back oh yeah my clients with their diet pop from morning until night.
          There must be a connection.
          Also blurry vision, that was the worst because I cut down on my driving and no medical profession ever ever explored how asa mother of a large family how could Icope with the driving and other stuff with the side effect of Parkininsom as well.
          It was a nightmare and the lost years at times are so painful to sit with. Somehow there needs to be a reckoning.
          And Lawerence for his truthfulness, worked in a bubble.

  6. Your assessment is wrong based on many variables; some of them simple as a placebo effect, others tardive dyskinesia (not mentioned ttbomk) and the general state of being on drugs and how they affect or effect and ultimately affect the human psyche. I could write forever on this but I steadfast on the punisition that people should have a right to choose, so long as they have truly informed consent. And that includes everything, even opioids and psychedelics.

  7. Dr. Kelmenson, Thank you for speaking out against the damage psychiatry is doing. Hopefully more psychiatrists become brave enough to do the same.
    It is so true a psychiatrist says very little during brief appointments and whatever the causation or context of someone’s distress is it simply does not matter.

  8. Thank you for the truth. Cole, I would just like to say try feeling very smart for finding you way out of psychiatry. This scam is not so simple like someone asked you to send money so they could get back to their home country. I do not feel stupid bc I know I am very book smart. But I feel like the most naive person I know. Being put on psych drugs at age 15 and coming off at 47, I have never viewed the world as evil and messed up as it is. I guess that is the point SHUT UP about all the bad I saw. Would anyone have any comments if that is what these drugs did to me and other teenagers?

    • Lcostanzo:

      Yes; the point of the medical model is to get people to shut up, placidly conform, and deny being upset about anything. For another example of this, I should have included the classic psychiatrist line: “This isn’t you …It’s your illness talking. Once you’re on the right meds, you’ll be back to your old/real self, and all these symptoms will go away”.


      • Lawrence,
        Thank you so much for the reply. I don’t think these blogs are meant for personal support, I am not sure, but all of you on MIA are the only safe support I have during my shocking discovery. Family, old friends and local hospitals have locked me up twice bc I told them they are creating chemical imbalances not curing them. They say I dont make sense. I had to agree I had a chemical imbalance again and take the meds to get out of one. I know better now. I do have a therapist I obtained thru the MIA resource list. He has helped me more in 1 1/2 years than I got over 32 years of others so called “help” or internal and physical torture. Gee, I don’t know Tomato/Tomahto Help/Torture. I do try to maintain a sense of humor. So I keep thanking every single person who has put the truth out. It has reached me and I could not be more GRATEFUL.

  9. Step right up! We’ve got a pill for whatever dis-eases you. We can thank our lucky stars the vice squad hasn’t caught up with us yet. Snake oil…”You must mean fish oil.”…has gone big time. Step right up! Got a problem with the neighbors? Try some of this, and you will be saying, “What neighbors?” Step right up, or our goons over there, the ones in the whites suits (They must be good guys, huh?), will mug you, and give you a dose by hypodermic needle. Nobody is exempted. If he or she isn’t on anything, we’ve got a drug for him or her, too. Step right up! The elixir of the Gods is just gleaming for another contented customer. Step right up!

  10. “Psychiatrists are seen as hard-working, caring, understanding healers, but they’re really snake-oil salesmen, drug-dealers, and master-sedaters. What they do should be illegal. Someday everyone will realize that not only do psychiatrists not heal anything, they’re a major contributor to the recent rise in suicides and overdoses.”

    Lawrence, thank you for writing this, and I completely agree. I admire the fact that you are a psychiatrist and are willing to express this bluntly and directly in a public forum. My experience–along with so many of the testimonials I’ve read over the years on MiA and elsewhere–unequivocally supports these statements. This is my story and the truth which I discovered, too, exactly, as I emerged from the dense and disorienting haze of it all, which took years to get clarity on this mess! So many ways in which that particular insitution wraps its tentacles around a person, it’s not just the psych drugs.

    So we were conned by frauds in an abusive profession and as a result, we got the life sucked out of us (along with quite a bit of money–including “lost wages”) under the pretense of “health care,” and it’s been costly in many ways to millions of individuals and families, and society on the whole, like organized crime.

    You’ve been on the inside for a long time and see this without question, it is your field. And many of us know this from having been the ones taken in by such an extreme and sinister, dangerous scam.

    Your voice has credibility, and this is quite clear, damning, and truthful, what you say here. Is there really no legal recourse for this? We are owed, no doubt about that, and the folks to whom you are referring need to be exposed, held accounatable, and disempowered.

    Obviously, from what you say–and of course we all know this, but I’d like to state it yet again and explicitly right here–psychiatry is extremely detrimental to society and a crime against humanity! How is this *civilized* in any way, shape of form? It’s actually destroying civilization. I believe that is 100% accurate and truthful as are the statements which you make, and they go hand in hand.

    I, for one, would like to see civilization preserved, albeit in a radically new paradigm far and away from this sabotaging matrix we’ve got going and in which we are expected to operate in order to “succeed” in life. These are illusions and outright lies, but psychiatry is obviously a loyal cornerstone of them and continues to foster the illusions, the lies, and this matrix, for the gain of a few at the expense of everyone else. Wondering where to go from here, with this information.

    • Alex, I am thinking of two ways. One some form of repetition and restorative justice. There could be two ways.
      One through the opioid crisis because guess who conned the medical system regarding pain? The same folks who gamed the MH field with false theories of Mental Illness is like diabetes.
      Some of the same Big Pharma folks were double dipping with both types of medications.
      If we could join class action suits somehow. But again they can see it with opioids so many don’t see for MH issues. Partly because some folks feel better. There is no paradigm.
      If one talks to 12 steppers they know some of the SSRI used for pain and they had to be really assertive in saying no this is addictive and I refuse to take it.
      The other is the gun control folks in that shooting survivors are know finding out the lead in the bullets and fragments left in their bodies are causing lead poisoning. Kind of a stretch but still. Many of the groups are more open to looking at systemic and gun industry and advertising issues rather than the proverbial “ crazy” person and then again there is much more to that narrative.
      The other way is to establish trauma centers. Mini Soteria Houses si to speak for all in the community. All of this is all human trauma so why not start the work for an eventual start?
      I hope for a White House Conference on Trauma and Congressional Hearings on Trauma but maybe in the future.
      We have to join together with all the victims of trauma and swallow some stuff stand strong on others things but if we see and after living life as it is now – we all are traumatized and there in might be the answer.

  11. Just read an article bashing AA as unscientific. The argument is alcoholics are people with the “brain disease” of depression which SCIENCE proves drugs called “antidepressants” can fix.

    Like saying you can cure alcoholism by taking crack. Woo hoo!

    As long as the quacks get paid. 😛

  12. Got to come up with a slate of actions. I say that we need to make the first priority the restoration of the social, civil, and legal standing of survivors. And this has to be measured in concrete gains, otherwise its just more tune out. We live in a society where social and civil standing is measured in dollars recovered.

    Then we have to protect those next in line to be victimized.

    • PacificDawn,
      I have a small background in the legal field. I myself and many peers I know have had our fundamental right to liberty violated when locked up for not the legal standard. Everyone is always looking for a lawyer with no success. I was referred to Disability Rights and they told me they are only working on physical accessibility issues right now. When I heal from recently coming off these drugs and my son is older, I wonder if I worked on a project to have lawyers avail to survivors. Lawyers that understand. I did attend NARPA. They get it but are all pretty busy. I am so new to this psych fraud maybe this already exists? Do you think something like that would help?

      • “Disability Rights and they told me they are only working on physical accessibility issues right now.”

        This caught my attention, thought it was an interesting response from them. What, exactly, does that mean? Sounds like they are discriminating against certain types of “disability,” or they are clueless how to address SOME disability issues, so they ignore them.

        The Disability Rights agency in Northern CA is really awful and when I was dealing with them years ago, they seemed to only perpetuate discrimination rather than to be the example otherwise. I did reflect this back, quite rationally and from my experience of this, but directly and with all certainty while using the exact examples from our dialogue. It was straight math, so very clear and unambiguous, and unfortunately, completely typical. Once one has been through systemic abuse, it gets really easy to spot, in the moment.

        And of course, the attorney with whom I was communicating at the time got angry, defensive, extremely patronizing (in a gaslighting kinda way), and cut off communication. Gee, big surprise.

        There’s really no end to the web of deceit, illusion, and stonewalling that goes on here. I think it’s a house of cards, though, so it will eventually cave in on itself, as long as we keep waking up and speaking up, and moving forward ourselves. That will ripple and others won’t make the same mistake we did in this regard, to trust this intricately corrupt industry. That is my best hope right now.

        • Alex, once again your comment nails it and totally resonates! As if the harm of psychiatry was not bad enough then you find out all the channels you reach out to for resolution or justice are in bed together and/or riding the same gravy train.

          “There’s really no end to the web of deceit, illusion, and stonewalling that goes on here”.
          I really appreciate reading your comments Alex. Having such well worded and insightful validation sure helps to neutralize all the crazy-making of psychiatry.

          • Thanks for saying this, and for all of your validation regarding how you value my commentary, Rosalee. That is extremely helpful and encouraging to me, always. Honestly, many of the brilliant writers on here have been examples to me. I’ve worked hard over the years to refine because it is all so friggin’ complicated! Aligning words with intention is walking the talk.

            I’m honestly so glad my words bring clarity to the situation, that is *exactly* my intent, so thank you for mirroring this. I’m never quite sure, been putting it together for years now. This is healing for me. I’ve unraveled from this by now, but I remain posting here because I know it still continues, and I want to make whatever contribution I can to stopping this crazy ass abuse and vampirism. It’s over the top and it still pisses me off to no end.

            Lately I have been aware of the resonance among many of us now, in this particular regard of how this systemic abuse plays out, and that is MOST encouraging to me. It is so insidious and really hard to pinpoint, but necessary, I think, and we’re getting it to it here, I believe, so hooray for that! I think it’s at the heart of the matter, to be honest, how rights and freedoms become totally and relentlessly compromised, and that’s a blow to a person’s humanity, truly. That’s my perspective, in any event, and what speaks to me most re “chronic mental distress.” It’s really a pisser, to say the least, and I’m HIGHLY intent on, one way or another, getting this crap to fucking stop already! Something’s gotta give at this point.

            “As if the harm of psychiatry was not bad enough then you find out all the channels you reach out to for resolution or justice are in bed together and/or riding the same gravy train.”

            Yes. And also, I think they just perceive humanity through the same filters, as themselves, and “others.” These are the “otherers.” That’s how they justify hoarding all the wealth, by deceiving the world. I think the lies are catching up with all of them, though, don’t you think? We’re awake, and not backing down from the truth, whatever actions we choose to take or not take, as long as we are true to ourselves at this point. Truth is truth, and it’s out there now. I’m encouraged by this.

        • The problem I see with “Disability Rights” is that by even engaging them, we are allowing that being “diagnosed” with one of these pseudoscientific “disorders” means we are “disabled” in some way. I think the resistance will not be coming from that direction.

          • Been reading about Maiti Girtanner who wound up disabled after being tortured by a doctor in an interment camp. She never could pursue a career as a musician.
            Those of us who have been “treated” for more than 8 years struggle with real disabilities–inflicted by respected professionals we often trusted. 🙁

          • Indeed, these are worthless agencies. But when one is stuck inside the system and starts waking up and begins going from agency to agency and advocate to advocate and non-profit to non-profit seeking some kind of reasonable support–and there are so many junctures where this would be most relevant and vital, and to be expected as baseline in a *functional* society– one learns the hard way, that it is nowhere to be found.

            And not only that, but in addition to coming up empty handed as you are going through the various stages of healing and integration, you’ll get a good dose of second-classism (new “ism”) and full blown stigma along the way, simply from asking for help from people who haven’t a clue what they are doing, seriously. Either that, or they’ve found a reason to not like you. Then you’re really cooked, don’t expect justice at all, if that’s the case, which to me is the epitome of abuse of power, to make it personal when there are social justice issues at stake. Neutrality is needed here, and that’s really hard to come by in the system. Talk about feeling powerless! That affects a person’s nervous system, for starters. It’s totally mind/body/spirit detrimental, I think it stands to reason.

            And don’t even THINK about getting an honest answer when you ask a question! Or an answer at all. I had to file a grievance once just to have a dialogue with the CEO of a mh-related agency with which I was once affiliated, who refused to talk to me, and who really had no legal right to stonewall me like that. I rightfully protested, and I got my meeting. Then, I had to take her to legal mediation, because she just could not understand outside her small minded perspective. So much drama, rather to have a simple dialogue. No integrity, no ethics, tons of fear, it is truly mind-boggling to awaken to how deep it goes, but it is what it is and I believe, from what I continue to gather, that it’s gotten way worse over the years.

            When a person is recovering from psych drugs and systemic abuse only to encounter more of it from “advocates,” it is like going from one parent to another complaining about abuse, and all they’ve done is to gang up on you. Include sibs and grandparents on that, too, if you like. Don’t rock the boat, AT ALL COST!

            And why not? Because it breaks the system. That can be scary, because it is unfamiliar and EVERYONE has to own their shit, but it’s necessary because one person cannot continue carrying the burden of all of this lying and protecting abusers in any given “system.” That is THE oppression, and falls on a scapegoat, which is where change needs to happen now, and hopefully, that’s exactly what is changing. We can’t keep functioning like this, it’s the downfall of the system.

            The line which I included in Voices That Heal, which to me sums up the entire attitude here and uttered by a therapist to an older member of a group complaining about crime in his housing situation was “take your meds and don’t make waves.” ‘Nuff said. That would be the title of my book about the system, from my first person perspective, were I ever to write one.

            Going through this crap is wildly surreal, and healing from it is profound. Too many illusions in our society to count. We each have to decide for ourselves what is real and what is fake. Lots of FAKE out there! It’s up to each of us to learn to discern.

          • Steve,

            I thank you for your writings on MIA. Since the age of 15 (now 49) I have been questioning all of this “help”. It was very easy to question it right from the start when I was 15 and my very initial complaint at the first psych center was that I felt lonely and unloved. The Help for that then was they put me in a straight jacket through me in a seclusion room and drugged me up on thorazine for 4 months while I sat drooling in a chair. Like I said very easy to question that kind of help. Then on from there this drug that drug this drug. So it is such a amazing wonderful help to me to see you write intelligently about all my questioning thoughts. I too thought I dont have a Disability so why would I try to get a service from Disability Services. Thank you so much for helping me clear up this horrific confusion in my life. I have lived your explanations of everything. THANK YOU.

          • Thanks for your kind words. It baffles me beyond belief that a person who knows they feel lonely and unloved would be secluded in a room and put in a straight jacket and drugged!!!! How could ANYONE think that would help you feel LESS lonely and unloved? Seems like the best way I could think of to make you feel MORE lonely and unloved?

            I can only surmise that a lot of these people don’t really understand or care how other people feel. The lack of empathy is astounding to me. There is nothing wrong with a person who is feeling lonely and unloved! Maybe what they need is connection and love? Radical thought!

      • Yes, I know that something like that would be a huge benefit!

        Problem is though, throughout all aspects of our society, those who have the greatest need for a lawyer are always those with the least ability to pay. So where you have public interest law projects, they focus their efforts in the areas where they are most likely to be successful. Nothing wrong with that. But it means that we need to come up with forms of defense which do not depend on having free lawyers immediately available.

        I am inspired here by this group “Satanic Temple” which goes into the states which still allow corporal punishment in the schools. Sometimes the parents have even signed a consent form.

        Satanic Temple encourages children to write letters to school boards, stating their religious objections to corporal punishment.

        Now, in my opinion this is more of a bluff, than something with real legal pull. But nevertheless, it is still well worthwhile. You are teaching children how to protect themselves. And then it is only one small step to go from standing up to school administrators, to standing up to parents.

        And then in instructions, Satanic Temple lists things to do if facing corporal punishment. These include calling police, and calling Satanic Temple.

        Once you teach a child to even attempt to stand up for themselves, then you have made a big difference. Corporal punishment is intended to psychologically humiliate. Once a child knows that others see it as wrong, then it will no longer have the intended effect.

        So while no one is really questioning the propriety of police arresting people for things like Disorderly Conduct, these psychiatric holds are something entirely different. So a card, stating the religious objection to psychiatric drugs, psychiatry, and psychotherapy, it will help. And then the card can direct the reader to a web site and a phone number. The web site will give some very stern warnings. If they call the phone number, it will be even worse.

        Eventually we will want to be ending the careers of many psychiatrists, therapists, and hospital staff.

        But you always want someone else to do the tough talking for you, rather than trying to do it yourself.

        The authorities will always try to turn discontent into a medical problem. And what is the real issue? Its just that someone is not complying with the demands of the Middle-Class Family, the Self-Reliance Ethic.

        So we have to look at how children are scapegoated, and why it is gotten away with. One way is Medical Child Abuse, including Mental Health. Another is disinheritance, the end game of the Family System.

        In most every other industrialized country it is very very hard to disinherit a child.

        In British Columbia you just call Trevor Todd in Vancouver. And their nation’s highest court has upheld this requirement of equal share inheritance, even when no need is demonstrated.

        In the Civil Law Countries, the disinherited child does not even need a lawyer. And this includes Latin America, and increasingly countries on the Pacific Rim.

        The one hold out is the United States, where everyone can go on and on telling sob stories about their scapegoat child, and about all the tolerance they are showing, and then back it up with disinheritance. Few challenge this because they are silenced lest they could be subjected to the same.

        Everybody, just register here, easier to talk on this because we can post quickly, send PM’s, and exchange email addresses:

        Once there is some consensus, we set up what ever people think is best.

        • Thank you for your reply. I am a physical therapist, so when I was not sleeping from sedative psych drugs, I work in physical health. There are problems there too. But a Branch of “medicine” that disables our brains. I am just shocked. If someone came into a physical therapy clinic with a sprained ankle and we cut off both their legs, Lawyers would be all over that. Anyway, if I am able to do anything with our fight to obtain lawyers, my thought is to have money to pay them. Honestly, I am so new at this, I have no idea. But thank you for answering my question… I just feel like I am in an episode of the Twilight Zone with this.

    • Psychiatry is a secondary police force that manages “non-productive, non-conforming and disruptive behaviors” with little legal restraint; it is unusual to obtain legal redress from the abuses of psychiatry. The World Health Organization supports psychiatry by defining “mental health” as a function of productivity- emotional well-being from productivity. The predominance of survivors of psychiatry were seen as “ne’er do wells” in order to qualify for psychiatric abuse.

  13. Steve wrote, “The problem I see with “Disability Rights” is that by even engaging them, we are allowing that being “diagnosed” with one of these pseudoscientific “disorders” means we are “disabled” in some way.”

    I agree with you, disability rights is treacherous at best.

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    I believe that this is due to disability money, that often this is why people go along with it.

    I think we have to go instead to a Universal Basic Income system, no needs test.

    Sami Timimi has said that the explosion in Autism assessments is because of neo-liberalism, a political posture which wants to dismantle the welfare state, and replace it with these disability assessments. It is a resurgence of the eugenics movement.

    Well, what we need instead is UBI + a strong public housing offering.

    • “I believe that this is due to disability money, that often this is why people go along with it.”

      I believe this is a huge assumption and overgeneralization, while projecting blatant stigma onto people who do identify as disabled because they have a disability which makes having steady employment and income that much more challenging. You never know what is behind a person’s decisions when it comes to their survival, and it’s none of anyone else’s business, anyway.

        • Yes, I agree, it can stick in a false and marginalizing way. It is part of “the system” so indeed it can become problematic and prolonged, I believe mostly due to stigma and discrimination, and an utter lack of competent transitional support, all of it being prejudicial and really kind of nonsensical, imo, just smoke and mirrors. That was my story with it, at least.

      • Alex,
        This goes to your previous comment but I did not have a reply button there. Thank you for stating how there is no justice. That is exactly where I am. Awakening to the truth and wanting justice and to stop this for others. I have given up on approaching lawyers. I spent $900 to have an attorney tell me I would have trouble with “Pattern Jury Instruction” which is the Standard of Care. This one is kinda funny, I caught myself trying to explain serotonergic and dopaminergic pathways to a legal assistant. So, I am involved in many peer groups and I share my story with young people and I do believe they question this fraud and begin to understand b4 the 30 years it has taken me. Thank you for adding to my understanding.

          • I do believe justice will be served, on a grand scale, as long as we continue to speak our truths of the matter in order to bring new and personally/collectively freeing perspectives to light. No room for compromise there, as far as I’m concerned. Truth cannot be censored. It will persist relentelsssly until it is righfully acknowledged and allowed to guide the process.

            Right now, as it is, it is the lies and illusions which are guiding the process, which is why things are so damn messy here! All the “covering your ass” shit that goes on when trying to get to the truth of things, rather than humbly stepping forward and owning what is going on behind the scenes, and therefore, allowing appropriate changes to occur, based on truth over individual ego and the need to control things, and, I imagine at this point, also fear and guilt. That would be novel and truly courageous–heroic, in fact.

            I think systemic abuse happens when there is a need to control, at all cost, and mostly, people–for whatever reason, always justified somehow, in a toxic system. That will never be a just situation, ever.

            But allowing truth to guide (for a change) is the most powerful catalyst to change which I can imagine. I’m a big believer in “the truth shall set you free.” All of us.

  14. “Psychiatrists are seen as hard-working, caring, understanding healers, but they’re really snake-oil salesmen, drug-dealers, and master-sedaters. What they do should be illegal. Someday everyone will realize that not only do psychiatrists not heal anything, they’re a major contributor to the recent rise in suicides and overdoses.”

    Excellent. This is one of Lawrence’s best articles thus far.

      • I thank God for the psychic healers and medical intuit with whom I worked so that I could successfully withdraw and heal from two decades of psych drugs. Being open to new perspectives is how anyone can heal, grow, and move forward in life, past the double-binding matrix of illusions and projected judgments. There are charlatans out there like in any professional vocation, and as always one has to use their intution and discernment where trust is concerned when it comes to healing services.

        But energy healing (all based on subtle energies, and which includes the ancient art of Chinese medicine) doesn’t even begin to compare with the insitution of psychiatry in terms of limiting beliefs, marginalization, and systemic harm and abuse. Chakra, energy, and psychic healing are all based on principles of SELF-healing, so it supports and fosters personal agency, empowerment, and independence.

        • I was using “psychic” in the pejorative sense. Like the con artists who advertise on daytime TV.

          Psychiatrists claim the ability to read minds (can tell what the thoughts of patients are) and predict the future (will he commit a violent crime or not.)

          • Ah, the “fortune tellers.” I just want to distinguish these from psychic healers. That’s all present time energy shifting, which is authentic healing.

            Psychiatrists, of course, tend to not have a psychic connection with their clients, while believing they know a client better than the client knows themself. That’s the problem.